You do understand that attempting to use real world logic in your argument about an aspect of a fantasy game automatically makes it null and void, right? If not, I'll be glad to tell you why as well as explain to you why swords, axes, bows, etc. wouldn't work.




Crossbows don't use arrows so I'm afraid your argument is invalid.




Like what? Release the game with a thousand game breaking bugs and never release any patches to fix it? Yeah, that sounds about right.

I'm usually all for the "It's a fantasy game, stop looking for realism" argument, but in this case, it doesn't apply. You're talking about a weapon that exists in our world and has a very particular way of being used. It takes 30 seconds to reload, minimum. I don't care if you're magical.

The game's been released already? And it's buggy? Oh wait, you don't know that until it's released. And the post you're responding to didn't mention the current status of the game at all. They brought up a perfectly valid point- at this stage in development, developers can't add new content. It's about testing and refining what's there.

The 11/11/11 release, that's why that and very likely many other ideas where crossed off the list of things to do when planning Skyrim.

I'd had loved to have seen a heavy hitting long delay crossbow. I'd even forget about the historical complexities of medieval mechanisms and maintenance in Skyrim's environments.

What I won't do is blame the developer for focusing on what could be done, while they could do it, the best way they could.

This is a place they could've brought back weapons in the form of nordic throwing axes, or dragon skewering pikes and spears. Some things had to be left on the cutting room floor for the whole to move on.

They are feature locked and out of Alpha. You don't add any content in Beta, let alone entire combat systems. 7 weeks before release no less. Shave off 2 of those for manufacturing and shipping and preparing for a simultaneous worldwide release and they have until around the middle of next month to start wrapping everything up.

Now you are using hyperbole to express how terrible you think the shape of the game will be when Bethesda releases it. Maybe it will be released in a terrible state and maybe it won't, but your opinion on whether or not they will is meaningless since you know nothing about their current production status.

I guess this is what you call "venting your frustration."

Very well said sir! :foodndrink:

Game breaking? Yes, these games do have bugs, but the game breaking ones are few and far between. "Thousands"? What?

@kiltboy Thanks

Yeah, well, RPG games have never been accurate to begin with. Crossbows were removed for reasons beyond realism, much like spears were.

I facepalmed so hard, I think my ancestors felt it

Skyrim's content is feature-locked finished. done. nothing else is going in. PERIOD.
now it's off to ensure that there's a thousand annoying bugs(game breaking? really?), and not bugs that actually break the game. like that bug from Oblivion's production that made the system lag like crazy because it was busy randomly generating flora

By now the game is feature locked, so they've stopped adding anything new and instead are fixing bugs in things already in the game.

I'm tempted to lock this thread, given the attitude and sniping that a couple people are exhibiting. Settle down, be civil.



And I am sorry, but this statement is pretty funny. They are two months away from release and I don't think you understand much about game development. If they added cross-bows, that would require them to deal with things like damage relative to other weapons, restrictions relative to combat/skills, animations to deal with the completely different way a cross-bow is fired, art design for a new weapon, deciding which enemy NPCs could also wield cross-bows and rebalancing combat, inventory changes, etc - a myriad of other things. It's not like slapping a new color on a bow.

Be my guest, the posts are off-topic anyways. Besides, I'm tired of arguing with pissants who argue for the sake of arguing.

Are there even crossbows in Nirn? I don't know myself, so please inform me!

Maybe they aren't capable of such "advanced engineering". But even we silly real-life human had them as medieval infantry weapons.. :violin:

In Morrowind. It also had spears, throwing knives, throwing stars.

Yeah I know. I did play it but I couldn't remember the crossbows.. :tongue:

Cheers. :foodndrink:

that would probably be because there were only ever 2 types: Dwarven and steel

Hell, Daggerfall had flails and you could kick. Bring back the flails and kicking!

Here's my long-shot guess about why flails have disappeared: games now have to worry about physics.

Tell that to Oblivion.

They where there, http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Crossbows_and_Bolts could be found, or bought.Heck the Dwemer has some ruined ballistas at their ruins. And those looked like they could walk; probably did...

Shooting a Dragon™ with a Crossbow™ would be Pretty Cool™.

And throwing knives and spears were in Obsidian's New Vegas. Neither games did it justice at all. Pretty bad implementations.

Most likely why they're not included. Hell unarmed was fully skipped over for such a reason. This goes for a surprisingly vast amount of games. Was a pleasant surprise to see the crossbow still in Deus Ex: Human Revolution and how they didn't use it as a selling point.

whats with the trademark signs? Worried beth will sue you for using a word in the dictionary?

Now that I think of it.. ya

Maybe a reference to the amusing fake interview with Hines and Howard RPG Codex made.

A slight reference to that, maybe. Shhhh...