Why Are You Reusing Phrases? : V

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:58 pm

I was watching http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vncIBREXCwU, and after witnessing all the different voices they used (Also w/ shopkeepers) I can't help but feeling pissed off that Bethesda didn't bother to have the VA's say different things? Wtf? This was a perfect opportunity to add diversity, but instead they wasted the vast VA's they used.....I don't get it. Not one bit!

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:02 am

I agree
I just can't think of a reason why you would have several voice actors read the same sentence when you can just as well come up with another one.
It wouldn't add much diversity because it's still only 3/4 voice actors for every guard in the game apparently, but this doesn't make sense

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:26 pm

I know right. It's the same with certain vendors and blacksmiths etc even though they use a totally different VA they say the EXACT same lines which I can't understand in the slightest.

OK if they were only using a very small handful of VAs like Oblivion it would still be annoying but kind of understandable that they were trying to save disk space but why record the same line twice (or three or four times) using different VAs?

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:05 am

Mhm.

I also thought most voice actors would also be able to do multiple characters/accents uniquely and still sound convincing. But that Farkas guy keeps popping up and he sounds like he's reading a script damnit.
And they should've just added "Hello", "Good day", "Yes?" and all those simple sentances to use besides the unique greetings most NPCs have. Those unique greetings make me want to do horrible unspeakable acts to my own ears.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:26 am

Maybe it's not laziness. Maybe they have a quirky sense of humor. You have to admit, it is an immediately identifiable phrase that is being used frequently here on the forums. Skyrim meme in the making.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:03 pm

Yeah i was wondering the same thing. They finally get more than 10 VA's, and now they make them say the same things. wtf

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:36 pm

Disappointed with the VA variety to be honest.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:38 am

"some may call this junk but I call them treasures"

yeah you and the other hundred shop owners.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:20 pm

There is still work to be done and of course there will always be room for improvement but sincerly, they made a huge improvement with the voice acting from Oblivion to Skyrim.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:23 am

Have you met my father? He advises the thane.
Have you met my father? He advises the thane.
Have you met my ..

Oh wow arrow to the head but I cannot because Im lawful neutral.. argh.
And shes prolly essential anyway.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:41 am

I can understand why they reuse the same voices but the same lines with different voices is a little lazy.

Did they really ask 6+ different people to say the same line?

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:00 am

I love it actually! Without repeated phrases we'd never have classic Skyrim memes like:
What's wrong someone took your Sweetroll?
Some call these junk, me I call them treasures.
and of course let's not forget the greatest line in Elder Scrolls history right next to "Stop right there criminal scum!":
"I used to be an adventurer like you, till I took an arrow in the knee."

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:10 pm

I vaguely recall them saying there were like over 70+ Voice Actors for Skyrim in an article but I could be wrong, does anyone remember Bethesda mentioning it?
Every Dark Elf guard in Morrowind sounded the same and all had the same phrases, yet it was never a problem, probably because they didn't talk much.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:59 am

I vaguely recall them saying there were like over 70+ Voice Actors for Skyrim in an article but I could be wrong, does anyone remember Bethesda mentioning it?
Every Dark Elf guard in Morrowind sounded the same and all had the same phrases, yet it was never a problem, probably because they didn't talk much.

Actually theyve mentioned this many times.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:48 am

Every Dark Elf guard in Morrowind sounded the same and all had the same phrases, yet it was never a problem, probably because they didn't talk much.

Because in Morrowind and Oblivion you were greeted as you would be in real life, with a simply hi or hello.

I don't walk up to strangers on the street and tell them about my life story selling vedgetables with my mother until I took an arrow in the knee.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:01 pm

I'm pretty sure I've heard probably less than 20 over my whole time of playing.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:54 pm

I vaguely recall them saying there were like over 70+ Voice Actors for Skyrim in an article but I could be wrong, does anyone remember Bethesda mentioning it?
Every Dark Elf guard in Morrowind sounded the same and all had the same phrases, yet it was never a problem, probably because they didn't talk much.

They did get 70+ voice actors, but they were dumb enough to only use about 10 of them for all the general voices, think it was 1 or 2 per race and the same for imperials and bretons with some other deviations

The thing is that they totally missed the point when people complained about the lack of voice actors in Oblivion.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:54 pm

They did get 70+ voice actors, but they were dumb enough to only use about 10 of them for all the general voices, think it was 1 or 2 per race and the same for imperials and bretons with some other deviations
The thing is that they totally missed the point when people complained about the lack of voice actors in Oblivion.

Then where the hell did they put the rest?

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:27 am

I used to make threads regarding Bethesda's lazyness... then I took a ban hammer in the face.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:32 am

I could see this being intentional to be turned into some kind of meme, but it could have also been a matter of not knowing whose voice they were going to use for certain NPCs and they ended up just using all of the recorded dialogue in the end.

Actor 1 might be used for guard A, but actor 2 might be a good fit as well. You have them both do the same lines and end up using both sets of dialogue when you realize one actor for all of the guards is repetitive as [censored]. Two or three people saying some of the same lines is only noticeable if the player runs into a lot of that NPC type, so I suppose it would take a little longer for the player to catch on.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:42 am

Yup, the "70 actors" statement was official. For instance:

http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/06/08/e3-2011-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-has-70-voice-actors-players-free-to-explore-from-start/

Having different actors read the exact same lines is laziness or apathy. No doubt about it. Anyone who thinks its an intentional meme is 12 and never had an office job.

» Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:50 pm

Then where the hell did they put the rest?

In specific characters in the world, i.e. daedric princes, Alduin, etc.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:18 pm

Yup, the "70 actors" statement was official. For instance:

http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/06/08/e3-2011-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-has-70-voice-actors-players-free-to-explore-from-start/

Having different actors read the exact same lines is laziness or apathy. No doubt about it. Anyone who thinks its an intentional meme is 12 and never had an office job.

Oh my god, that was just a joke. Honestly it seems like half of the forum has no sense of humor whatsoever. You may have an office job but you definitely need to get out more

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:28 pm

Yeah, at the very least for major stuff like becoming Thane - give the jarls some personality.

» Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:24 am

I used to have more lines, then I took an arrow to the knee.