I think your overbright problem is caused by a bad merge of these three environment mods, because my fellout is never that bright even when looking right into the sun.

I use Fellout, but I had to activate the Sissy version because I could not see my hand in front of my face on a night with a full moon. It would not be so bad if my hot-keys worked so that I could use my tactical night-vision (stupid Vista).

I'm continually amazed at what people can blame vista for, even when it cannot possibly be causing the issues.

I think your overbright problem is caused by a bad merge of these three environment mods, because my fellout is never that bright even when looking right into the sun.

I feel that some of you are greatly overexaggerating how dark it is with Fellout installed. Some of the comments like not being able to see your hand in front of your face tell me that people either aren't being honest or they have their game settings wrong. Here's Fellout on my computer on a clear night with a nearly full moon. http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/6558/felloutclearnight.jpg (If you are looking at that with a lot of white screen around it you need to block that white off or it will definitely make it look darker than it really is). To me that looks like what I see on a clear night in real life. I walk my dogs every night so I've been paying attention to it more. When I get to the end of my street where the trees overhang and there are no lights the road texture starts to disappear and appears to be much smoother than it really is. I can no longer make out individual blades of grass or see anything with great detail. The trees in the near distance bleed into one big shadow and it is impossible to make out individual limbs. If someone was standing 50 yards away in that light I would have a hard time making out whether it was a person much less whether they were friendly or not. On a clear moonlit night I can make out much more detail but it is still difficult to see much in the distance. That's pretty much how it appears in the game with Fellout active. The default version is like having permenant night vision active. I never did really like that.

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That image seems awfully bright for night. brighter than what I get in mine.

Last night I tried playing with no light in my room, apart from my glow-in-the-dark-like-a-beacon mouse, and found that the night was pitch black. I needed night vision, or my Pip Boy light to see more than 2 feet in front of me. I use Fellout Full.
Playing with my light on and the nights seem to be brighter and easier to see. Maybe it's my monitor :shrug: When I first got it it took me forever to set the brightness, contrast, color, etc to something I was happy with. My game settings brightness indicator is just a couple of bars. Any more and I'd have to fiddle with those pesky monitor settings again.

I'm not fussed about the absolute blackness of the nights. I know that if I play with my room light off, not only will I not be able to see the keyboard, but my game world would be just as dark. I'd have thought it'd be the other way around.
Maybe everyone's monitor and game set up is different. I wouldn't say set incorrectly, just different. To me it's not the mod that's the issue it can be other things, too :shrug:

Now on topic, i seem to be a bit of a wuss, i use the sotd version,and sometimes even on that one i can barely see two feet in front of me, sometimes a little too bright at nighttime. perhaps something in between the full and sotd versions with a little more consitency in the darkness of night might work out pretty good. thats just my two cents worth.

first,let me give you http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001F51G16/?tag=gocous-20&hvadid=4503645167&ref=pd_sl_568tfc1qxr_e, it's been a godsend to me since i play with the lights out all the time.

I'm a bit of a wuss too. It's sometimes a bit too light in the open wastes at night but at night in the Ruins, even with sotd I need night vision to keep from walking off a cliff and killing myself (good thing there are no cliffs). I use Fallout Streetlights too.

I think your overbright problem is caused by a bad merge of these three environment mods, because my fellout is never that bright even when looking right into the sun.

It ruins the post apocalyptic feel for me. No doubt it's a terrific mod, it's just not to my personal taste, that's all.

Then Fallout and Fallout2 also ruin the feel, since they do not have green skies, but instead blue skies and grey cloud. Go check the Oil Rig cutscene if you don't believe me. Fallout3's green skies are non-canon if we take Fallout and Fallout2 as canon. You can't even use The Glow as an excuse, since the East Coast is nowhere near it.

He didn't say it was lore-breaking, he said it ruined his post-apocalyptic feel. I think we all have different ideas of what Post-Apocolyptia should look like, but that's what mods are all about - choice. And I'm glad you let me choose yours

Wow, this thread went places!

I've released beta2 of 1.1.17, it's up in FO3Nexus' file area. This addresses many complaints with Fellout.

- SOTD wasn't. Yeah, I $?&%ed up SOTD in 1.0.16.
- Full was just TOO dark. I'd like to extend appreciation to the FOOK2 team here, who actually went out of their way to make a nightvision which could actually work with Fellout Full.
- Water, especially wasteland pools, looked like green smoke. I'm trying to fix that (another reason release 17 is still beta).

This is mostly passive aggressive but I'll try and limit it...

I made both of these arguments many months ago (probably others as well) with a lot of words and pictures explaining why and you just brushed it off, but thats why I don't use Fellout. What caused you to change your mind?

I don't remember what/when/where I argued but IIRC (haven't used it in forever) you used an excessive amount of pure black (IE 0's across the lighting board) instead of really low numbers (like 5 - 20) which caused a really ugly paint effect and, as you've now come to the conclusion, you couldn't even use night vision to see farther then 5 feet.