I'm wondering why ZeniMax Media Inc. and Bethesda Softworks are not publishing An Elder Scrolls Legend: Battlespire and The Elder Scrolls Adventures: Redguard to run on Windows XP, Windows Vista, Window 7, and Windows 8 all in HD, 1080p, and 60FPS?

I mean gog.com is getting every single old video games from the 1980's and 1990's to be sold and Steam is somewhat as well.

ZeniMax Media Inc. and Bethesda Softworks are one of the AAA video game publishing companies that have not sold their old Elder Scrolls video games before 2002 on gog.com and Steam yet.

Would be nice to purchase both An Elder Scrolls Legend: Battlespire and The Elder Scrolls Adventures: Redguard from gog.com.

No/very little money in it compared to whatever they're doing now?

There's very little money in it for Activision and Atari as well compared to what they are doing now yet they are releasing every single old video game that they developed back in the 1980's and 1990's as time passes by to sell on gog.com.

Same goes for Electronic Arts (EA).

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1501151-will-we-see-redguard-and-battlespire-on-gog/

I personally would rather see their time and resources put into the new games coming out. Just personal bias. I'm not saying the titles you want won't be available via gog, but... if they don't come out, it wouldn't bother me much. And regardless of what the other companies are doing, something not garnering a lot of income is a good reason not to do it for any company.

Um Bethesda Softworks developed those 2 old Elder Scrolls video games back in the 1990's.

Today Bethesda Softworks only publishes video games and barely has a helping hand in developing video games.

Since Bethesda Softworks publishes video games today they could release all of their old video games again for sale on gog.com and Steam. It wouldn't take much resources from them while still being able to publish all of the new video games that they have that will be released for sale in 2014, 2015, and years from today.

Wouldn't take much. I said I'd rather every hand on board for the new stuff. Personal bias, as I said - again. Sorry if that hurt your feelings.

I'm not sure it would require any "hands on board." From what I understand, GOG takes care of setting up "wrappers" for old games, so they work on newer gear. Really, the only reason I can think of for not doing it is DRM and control of distribution.

yeah, GoG does take care of that themselves..

all that would need to be done is Bethesda making an arrangement with GoG, and possibly hand over part of the source code..

I wish ZeniMax Media Inc. and Bethesda Softworks would get a deal with gog.com to finally release the old Elder Scrolls video games for sale on gog.com.

It's like they don't realize that a lot of PC gamers are purchasing PC versions of video games from gog.com only and refuse to purchase the PC versions from Steam.

Guess we will have to wait until 2014 is over if anything from ZeniMax Media Inc. and Bethesda Softworks will ever get released for sale on gog.com.

With Redguard the answer is simple, it's a technical mess and probably deemed to not be worth the hassle. Battlespire is more curious, I was guessing it would get a free release this year like Arena and Daggerfall were 10 and 5 years ago, but it didn't happen.

That said, even if Battlespire was re-released today it wouldn't be 1080p. It was a 640x480 game back then and it's a 640x480 game today.

No, they aren't. GOG currently have, what, 100 pre-1995 games or so? So there are many thousands of games missing for "every single old video game from the 1980's and 1990's" to be true. Instead they are offering a small chunk of the games that were released back in the 80s and 90s.

No publisher have sold their old Elder Scrolls video games before 2002 on gog.com and Steam yet.

Agreed.

For Atari it's arguably a rather large source of income. They are pretty far from their prime back in their early 00s and are not doing well. Their newer games only been small games for mobile phones.

And no, as said earlier, a lot of their older games are still missing. The first EA sports game, One on One, isn't there for example, and neither is the excellent Hunter by Activision.

Neither Battlespire or Redguard have any DRM to begin with.

There is a Zenimax game on gog.com already, and it been there for years. Arx Fatalis by Arkane Studios, which is owned by Zenimax.

From what I heard gog.com actually adds to some old video games stuff like 1080p. Don't remember which video games it is as I only own 20 video games on gog.com and played 4 of them only.

Yes I know thousands of video games are missing but I remember gog.com said like 2 years ago I think it was where they plan on having every single old video game released for sale on gog.com as time passes by. Then earlier this year they said they plan on having every single new video game released for sale on gog.com as time passes by these new video games will be considered classics gog.com considers video games that are 5+ years old to be classics. At least from what I read in their comments what the gog.com employees say.

That's why I said ZeniMax Media Inc. and Bethesda to sell the old Elder Scrolls video games on both gog.com and Steam.

Electronic Arts (EA) is going to be releasing more and more of their old video games for sale on gog.com just not all at one time.

Arx Fatalis is the only ZeniMax Media Inc. published video game for sale on gog.com at least for now.

Wasn't Arx Fatalis released before Zenimax acquired Arkane though?

All right, I didn't know gog took care of preparing the game. Thanks to the posters who told me that. If that's true, I hope these games do come out, since it doesn't impact anything coming out in the future at all.

You didn't have to put a disc in before you could play them?

Protip: We understand that "Battlespire" is "An Elder Scrolls Legend: Battlespire". Why do you keep using the full titles? (out of curiosity, not trying to be an ass)

I don't know, but it's possible, yeah.

Many PC CD games of the 90s require the disc in before you could play the game, but not because of DRM, but because not the whole game was installed or because the music were normal CD tracks.

Because of this I haven't tried Battlespire or Redguard without the disc, as I want the music and with Redguard also the video files that aren't installed.

Quake, Quake II and Jedi Knight are examples of 90s games that been re-released on Steam, but they have no music at all because there's no disc.

Arx Fatalis was released in 2002, Zenimax acquired Arkane in 2010. I couldn't find when Arx Fatalis was put on GOG but site itself launched in 2008.

Ah, okay. I've always assumed that the disc requirement was because of DRM. I didn't start playing games until 2000 (American McGee's Alice) so thanks a lot for the clarification.

It was released on GOG in late 2008.

Right now I'm more interested in knowing when the Fallouts will get back into digital distribution. If Bethesda can't be bothered to bring these three back, what are the chances of them releasing less popular games requiring more work? Still, I'd love to see Redguard and Battlespire on GOG. I never had a chance to play them.

GoG has 757 games in their current catalog (according to their front page.) I don't know what percentage dates from before 1995. Don't forget that many (most) games before 1990 were released on platforms other than Windows/DOS (typically Mac, Amiga, Atari, Apple ||, C64, and a bunch of other long-gone computers and consoles.) In addition, most of those old games were just plain bad, and should never again see the light of day.

The video resolution is not an issue for people who want to play old games. You can play them in a window, or you can go full-screen with the black bars. Most of these old games are being run on DOSBox (or GoG's version of it), and can be run in Windows, Mac OSX, or Linux.

If the disc had to be present to play the game, that is effectively DRM. Back when these games were released, few people had CD burners, so piracy of CD-released games was not a problem.

GoG carried the first two Fallout games, and Fallout Tactics, until recently. They were pulled from GoG's catalog when Bethesda/Zenimax got full distribution rights. I suspect you'll see the same thing happen with Arx Fatalis sooner or later.

Yeah, so am I. I'm a bit surprised they aren't back on Steam at least.

That doesn't make "gog.com is getting every single old video games from the 1980's and 1990's" statement any more true.

I never said it was an issue, I'm not the one asking the old games to be in 1080p. I happily play old games in their old 320x200 resolution and don't mind it at all.

Not really, because we aren't living in the past. We live in an age where everyone have a CD burner and where the IMGMOUNT command exist. And I just tried Battlespire without the disc, and it runs without issues, except there is no music.

Doubt it, with Fallout it happened instantly, but it didn't happen the instant when Zenimax bought Arkane Studios. Instead it's still there, even after ~4 years.

Did they take the Fallouts off of Steam? The still have the pages for 1, 2 and Tactics, but it doesn't show me a price because I already own them.

Yes. They're still listed, but there's no price or a buy button. Something to note though, they were re-rated by ESRB in April. Hopefully in preparation for release?

Huh! I wonder why they would take them off. Once they're on there and working, it makes no sense to me to pull them.

Maybe that's why I'm not in marketing.