Why do Caesar's Legion call Caesar Kaeser?

Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:38 pm

Any time I walk by or talk to a member of Caesar's Legion they pronounce Caesar like Kaeser, like "Ave, True to Kaeser"
The same goes for Centurions, they pronounce them 'Kenturions'
Does anyone know why?
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:13 pm

Because that's the original latin pronunciation of Caesar.
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:32 pm

Probably the same reason that americans pronounce lieutenant as loo-tenant, rather than the british lef-tenant or the german loyt-nant.
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:31 pm

Another person with no training in Latin...what a shame. Latin should be a MANDATORY language to learn. Anyways, "Kaesar" is the Latin pronouciation, and "Kaesars's" Legion is based on old Rome.
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:41 am

Because that's the original latin pronunciation of Caesar.


This.

The current pronunciation probably started with Shakespear as it rolled off Ye Olde English tongue easier.
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:17 pm

Kaeser also means king, ruler, emperor
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:53 am

Caesar specifically created the Legion so it could conquer and carefully absorb other groups into it. In order to remove old allegiances and prejudices, every new member is taught Latin to replace their old slang, taught Roman customs to replace their traditions, and expected to embrace Old World mannerisms. Caesar himself actually has a very modern outlook, but uses ancient Rome as his model because it is so utterly alien to postapocalyptic America, it can not coexist with any tribe's identity and instead must replace.

Hopefully, that made sense.
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:22 am

Because that's the original latin pronunciation of Caesar.


This.
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 3:37 am

Latin should not be a mandatory class in school. Let the dead dogs lay. But it was the original latin pronunciation.... and its also evident through all the other more modern names for King that tried to copy the 'Caesar' tradition. Kaiser (the Germans) and Czar (the Russians after a Muscovian prince married into the Byzantine royal family).
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 8:34 pm

The only reason I know it is pronounced Kaesar was the fact it was explained in game!

Which made me think of Keyser S?ze.
Don't Google that unless you have seen The Usual Suspects or plan on never seeing it :)
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:45 am

Hmm... Caesar and Keyser DO look alike... :eek:
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:26 pm

Latin should not be a mandatory class in school. Let the dead dogs lay.

You mean, "let the dead dogs lie".

Fiat Canis Mortuis Dormiens?
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:07 am

"let the dead dogs lie


which I would've known if I'd taken latin right? :laugh:
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:45 am

Screw latin, if it was so good, then why aint we speaking it? must have svcked so much for it to die out
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:33 pm

I was surprised to see this in the game.

I have been researching the word Caesar a lot for a long time.

Literally the words : cross, Christ, Kaeser, Kurus, Kureys, H?z?r, Khidr etc have the same root.

There are many similar words around the word which mean ruler and it is strongly tied to Tengrism which is the basis for so-called religions such as shamanism, paganism, etc...

The root Khz & Hz were used by ancient Turks (Turks here is not used as a nation, race or ethnicity but more in form of ancient people that populated most of the world) to refer to the reincarnated archetypes of "Inner" Gods in human forms. Although they had a single God called Tengri (which is a little bit different from the God we have been taught and meaning Celestial&Heavenly Creator, architect, pro-creator, initiator, God). These inner Gods all came from the same source but in different idiosyncrasies.

At one time the leader of Rome called himself Kaeser and declared a new religion in order to have absolute control over his subjects by using this Khz&Hz archetypes and used the ancient cross sign. (which originally is called "Ha?" and is a tool to understand life and and the Tree Of Life) (Much later in history, another leader tried to declare himself Kaeser and this time used the revolving cross sign (swastika) and that led to his own destruction)

Later, some kind of Iconoclasm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iconoclasm took place and the biggest and most ancient library that kept many secrets about Tengrism and the truth of human nature and life itself was burned by a certain Kaeser in Alexandretta to hide what they did to humanity for power.

Also the inquisition was created to cleanse world from people who were Tengriist. They also burned and/or destroyed any documents that resulted from collective memory of humans about Tengri idea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khidr

Also read the parts: "About Catholicism, without Latin" "Second-Rate Religion for the Masses” "About Catholicism Again, this Time with Latin" in this book to have a broader idea.
http://www.adji.ru/book20_02.html

The word "Catholic" is the Turkish word "Kat?l?k" which means "those that joined us, our ideas" the first Catholics were Armenians.
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:44 pm

This thread needs more http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIAdHEwiAy8

Never knew about the link till I read the comments there just now!.
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:12 am

Because that's the original latin pronunciation of Caesar.

This, it was discussed in one of the developers diaries vids.
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:11 am

Screw latin, if it was so good, then why aint we speaking it? must have svcked so much for it to die out

But we are.
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:34 am

Screw latin, if it was so good, then why aint we speaking it? must have svcked so much for it to die out

We do use it, for scientific names mostly.
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:55 pm

mmmmmmm.... Kaisers....

I like mine piled with ham and cheddar, and a little dijon mustard. :P
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:10 pm

At one time the leader of Rome called himself Kaeser and declared a new religion in order to have absolute control over his subjects by using this Khz&Hz archetypes and used the ancient cross sign. (which originally is called "Ha?" and is a tool to understand life and and the Tree Of Life) (Much later in history, another leader tried to declare himself Kaeser and this time used the revolving cross sign (swastika) and that led to his own destruction)

Caesar was just a name until Mr Julius Caesar came along, only after that did it come to mean ruler etc.
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:49 am

Caesar was just a name until Mr Julius Caesar came along, only after that did it come to mean ruler etc.

yep way too much conspiracy crap in that other post for me.
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:28 pm

yep way too much conspiracy crap in that other post for me.


Not really conspiracy. Just a truth which is overlooked in the sake of status-quo and continuation of mass control of nations. If these things were truly researched by professionals, they would understand the significance of these knowledge. They are all there in history books, ancient writings and archives of nations.

Kaesar was a phenomena. It is an ancient name.

We can see it in Alexander Romance as a servant of Alexander the Great.

We can see him represented in the Arthurian tale, Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, as the Green Knight.

and many others.
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Post » Fri Dec 03, 2010 6:01 am

Not really conspiracy. Just a truth which is overlooked in the sake of status-quo and continuation of mass control of nations. If these things were truly researched by professionals, they would understand the significance of these knowledge. They are all there in history books, ancient writings and archives of nations.


My guess is they use the term 'proffesional' loosely.... I mean Louis Farrahkan claims to be a professional and know all about all sorts of things. Besides the word Catholic isn't Turk in any way its Greek. The word Catholic (katholikos from katholou — throughout the whole, i.e., universal) occurs in the Greek classics, e.g., in Aristotle and Polybius, and was freely used by the earlier Christian writers in what we may call its primitive and non-ecclesiastical sense. Most words from the bible come from Ancient Greek because Ancient Greek was to the Romans (and the Hebrews of that time) the language of the educated. And the first Catholics weren't Armenian they were Hebrew/Greek/Roman although Armenians and others were early converts. Even the language you use is that of a conspiracy theorist. The long and short of it is that Julius Caesar took control of the Republic, was assasinated and when Augustus took control he took the name 'Caesar' as a title to give him a bit more legitimacy and to establish heriditary empire.
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Post » Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:21 pm

Screw latin, if it was so good, then why aint we speaking it? must have svcked so much for it to die out


You're a moron. That is all.

But anyway.

I' took 3 years of Latin in high school (unfortunately my College no longer offers it, and more ironically my high school Magistra taught at my college as a Latin professor before the dis-included Latin from the language programs). In Latin, C's are pronounced hard, like a K. Latin in fact has many different ways of pronunciation, but the way we pronounce some C's in our language is totally non-existent in Latin.

As for that entire post Ancalimon, it seems you are looking way too much into this and blowing it out of proportion, though your post is still very interesting. Julius Caesar was possibly one of the greatest rulers Rome had ever seen, and though the Caesar in this game isn't necessarily "good" per-say, it would make sense for any leader of a faction that is trying to replicate Rome; basically have the name of one of the greatest rulers of all time.
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