Nothing is wrong with either playstyle as long as X person is having fun I mean in Mario their are 3 ways to play it.

Speed run.
Completion.
Kill everything

Or all 3!

People like to complain. Pure and simple.

As a casual all I can say is "They Started it"

Its your game, you bought it, your play-style. I wouldn't really worry about others

teamwork, Ok you kill them, you loot the bodies, and I'll harvest the meat.

Because content is being dumbed down in order to cater to casuals, who obviously don't play the game that much and lack the training and game knowledge that an "elitist" has (aka basemant dwelling fat no lifer or w/e else mythical creature the nooblords like to think gamers who are better than them, happen to be)

Was playing Diablo 3 just recently. Ah, I remember Diablo 1 and 2 where it was actually possible to die. In D3 I find the most useless item I can find is the health potion.

I play the way I want and you should also.

Look at it this way...

A casual makes a group an elitist joins.....they all go into the dungeon/raid & do what ever they do.

An elitist makes a group, a casual joins...the casual gets kicked. ^ ^

^^Thats a major cause of friction between 2 types of player.

Elitist = jobless rejects
Casual = jobless rejects
I dont see the difference here??.. ...

Pretty much.

Agreed.

....?

No, that's friction between a casual and a [censored]. In your example, elitist players don't hate casuals unless the word "casual" is used to describe a horrible player who is being carried by the group.

But they do just fine. It's a few individuals that don't and thus have a vested interest in keeping both groups separated.

an elitist personality causes friction wherever it appears, whether in a game or in real life. A casual personality can get along with anyone and be happy in a variety of situations, whether in game or in real life. So called elitists need to just stay away from LFG ques and stick together in guilds with strict recruiting requirements.

They don't need to get along. Just coexist. Realize that how you play isn't how everyone else should play, mind your own business and just enjoy the game how you want.

My guess is because many people feel the need to refer to one or the other in derogatory terms such as "elitist".

no... more like...

A casual makes a group, an elitist joins, then quits as soon as you get to the dungeon because he doesnt want to waste his time with casuals failing.

An elitist makes a group, a casual joins, then is kicked because once again the elitist doesnt want to play with casuals and fail.

But it really doesnt matter, because elitists arent going to accept a group invite from a random, and certainly isnt going to invite a random to group.

and we can stop beating around the bush here and admit that casual and bad are synonyms. jussayin.

I recall John Stewart observing that the problem with US politics isn't left vs right, but the extremists in each party. Applies here too. It's the 10% that produce 90% of the carry on.

people are different and arrogant.. everyone wants their way to be THE way.. it's as simple as that really..

SO true LOL. U forgot: A casual makes a group, an elitist joins...casual gets disconnected some seconds, gets kicked from the group.

But yeah I dont consider myself a casual nor an elitist so I dont care much.

no, its really quite simple.

many like myself simply dont want to group with casuals. no offense, we just actually care about winning games, instead of simply existing in them.

casuals play with the attitude of "meh, who cares if we die, its a game." well duh, obviously its a game, and we dont play games with the intention of losing. i dont hate casuals, but i surely dont group them.

you can call me a mean person if you want, many do, but in reality im actually shielding the casual from being berated to no end by my guildies, who do not put up with failure.

I don't think it's the two types that inherently get along poorly but how the developers plan for them.

I believe this whole elitist vs casual thing originates in wow
And its because blizzard always dumbed down content in an effort to let all players experience it by doing so undermining the achievements of the elite.

If similar things happen in Eso we'll see the same enviornment . If zenimax maintains a standard there will be no elitist vs casual split

Casuals and hardcoe folks DO get along and are found in the same guilds quite often. Just doesn't work on the forums since this is where you'll get all the crazy people who would rather cause drama. =)

It's real simple OP, I will not tolerate anyone dictating me on how to play the game. That's what elitists do. they feel "better" then everyone and try to lecture others.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate advice. But there's always a fine line between the two.

also, there is a very big difference between casuals (they just have funsies!), min/maxing casuals (people like me, fun times and some idea of how to achieve true greatness without ever achieving it due to lack of time mostly, or because we're too busy being side-tracked), elitists (those who think they're awesome but are just bad) and min/maxing elitists (the ones who race everything, and then complain about too little content)

Not as simple as you're portraying it. Some people can be very deeply immersed in a game without wanting to 'win'. You're comparing PvP to to RP or PvE. More than just simply existing, I'd say there are many who don't PvP who could be viewed as 'hardcoe'.

Why can't elitist and casuals get along?

Because people are waaaay too defensive and/or insecure. Basically.