Yes. The made-up fantasy version of Morrowind that doesn't really exist in reality, only in the misinformed posts on this message board that exaggerate what Morrowind did or flat out lie about it.

Did the OP have some valid points? Perhaps. But they were lost by the blatant attempt at a subtle, veiled jab as shown by the "dumbed down" comment at the end of the post. Once I read that, the OP lost all credibility. This is nothing more than another mindless whine thread.

It's been a year and a half. Get over it.

You already know the answer to your question its been made easier to accesses easier to pick up and play in order to appeal to a wider audience.

Skyrim has a minimalist quality about it mostly due to logistical constraints (such as a DVD's physical storage space limits).

No one wants text-only NPC dialogue like in Morrowind anymore. They want Patrick Stewart, Terence Stamp, or Max Von Sydow, That means, you get more simplistic gameplay as the voice acting assets take up a larger footprint vs. stuff we actually care about. And it's a shame, as I've heard almost every VA line before and fast forward through most of them to get to the meat and potatoes of the matter at hand.

I actually like the skill system, though. It feels more organic. Your character does whatever they do, and gets good at it. Better than having to fill out a build with a bunch of extraneous nonsense (eyeballing you, now, Morrowind).

Skyrim only takes up about 3.8 GB of space so there is plenty more room for other things. Missing features were not caused by space restraints but were made deliberately. And with Blu-ray and hard drive installations this point loses even more ground.

PC players can of course use mods to add stuff back if they desire

I have also been Elder Scrolls fan since Morrowind. But I like Skyrim a lot. I think it continues the way where Morrowind was awesome, Oblivion superior to it and Skyrim superior to Oblivion. But one thing has changed in Skyrim if compared to previous games: it greatly supports roleplaying and requires it. In previous titles you were able to create character without thinking too much of him and you had good time when playing him and enjoying the game world and the guilds. In Skyrim you need to think more about your character. You have to know who you are and what you are. If your character doesn't inspire you enough then you will find the game boring really soon but if you can truly get into the head of your character you will find the Skyrim to be the best game which has ever been released this far.

I know exactly where you are coming from. I have felt like this from day one. It's just not the same to me. Half the time it doesn't feel like an elder scrolls game at all. And don't get me started on dawnguard and vampire lord. Throw-away playthings is the hip thing today,it's a shame the elder scrolls is going this way....such a damn shame. Like i said: I know wxactly where you are coming from and it frustrates the hell out of me. I think because deep down if they keep going the way they are going ,i won't be playing elder scrolls anymore...which is sad.

You actually liked having to repair your equipment?
It was realistic, yes, but so annoying.

Try a different playstyle change it up, dont try and play like you did in morrowind or oblivion when playing skyrim, its a whole different feel and style that you gotta get use to and once you do its great.

I prefered smacking things with a repair hammer,rather than what skyrim offers. I can now make elven.I can now make ebony. It needs way more than that i'm afraid. We shouldn't even be able to make daedric armour,and possibly glass. It's another reason why loot is awful. The smithing in skyrim is very poor. It looks good because you have branches and dots everywhere...but it's dull in my opinion.

Yeah, I totally agree with these points.

Skyrim has strayed a long way from Morrowind or even Oblivion, because at least in OB you had some basic RPG-ness to it.

I think Bethesda's biggest mistake was the removal of classes, it was much more enjoyable then the current system IMO. The current system feels all wrong. You level up and put a perk into smithing even if you leveled up from hitting things...uhm?

I like idea of perks, but prefer the way they did perks in FO3, because they were more interesting and there was a greater variety of them.

At least weapon degradation gave you a reason to venture into the nearest town, if the player can wander the 'harsh wilderness' of skyrim for hours on end without any penalty's it gets rather tedious and becomes a grind of 'who can hit more' instead of trying to preserve your armour and weapons in combat.

Don't get me wrong, i still Enjoy skyrim and it has it's good point, it gets stuff right, but it's not the same. it's caters towards the casual, little kiddy type gamers who enjoy the game holding their hand through the whole thing, which in turn makes it feel plastic for the more serious gamers like us.

In your opening post you said you got bored with your playing formula. My question tried to elicit you to elaborate on that formula...which obviously failed. How was that unclear? My bet is that you are playing the game the same way with every character but expecting different results.

Skyrim obviously doesn't interest you. That's OK, nothing wrong with that. There are loads of games out there that I never played, and never will play (ie, the rebooted Tomb Raider game, the Mass Effect games, etc.) If it doesn't interest you, then put it away and play something else for a while. That's what I do when I'm sick of the game. It's there for me to play when I want to play it, there's no requirement to play it.

Skyrim took me a lot longer to get into than Morrowind, Oblivion and even Daggerfall (which is the first one I played when I was like, five so it doesn't count), it is a different experience (and unlike Oblivion there wasn't a massive leap forward in UI friendliness and combat to hook me in). When I first played it the visuals impressed me, but most of the other features annoyed me (especially the world map), but after a while I just got over the changes and enjoyed it as a new game rather than Morrowind or Oblivion 2.

I am disappointed that it is a much more user friendly game in some ways (dumbing down is a terrible way of putting it), but it is a design choice that I dislike, not a flaw, and as much as I would like to have an upgraded Morrowind with the features fixed/improved, I still have Morrowind and it's stable of mods, so I'm not too bitter about it.

The only thing I can suggest is just playing it more, DEFINENTLY at least try to do a playthrough with no fast travel except for carriages, unlike Oblivion it is almost (if not just as much) fun as Morrowind (albeit without mark and recall and intervention making it a bit of a drag).

It took a while for me to 'get' Skyrim and start having fun, but it was worth it.

I can't say this just yet, despite Oblivion being the crashiest game of all time.

Kill cams single handedly ruined the game for me.

Oh for the love of...Ethetan, we got the message the first billion times. This is Tiris's thread, not yours, so please do not try to make it about you. You've had your threads already.

As to the OP, if you don't like the game, you don't like it. There is no point in forcing it, and short of trying different play styles and different sets of house rules (and mods if you play on computer), it may be that this is one ES game you don't like.

^ This.

There's nothing wrong with not liking a game, or even the latest game in a series. I love Halo. I have every single one of them (original discs no less) on my game shelf. Halo CE - Halo: Reach, they're all there.

Except for Halo 4.

I just don't like the direction that 343 Industries took the latest installment. Still love playing the other Halo games, but I just can't stomach Halo 4. So I don't play it, I traded it in.

So it's ok to like Morrowind and Oblivion, but to not like Skyrim, OP. I would however; be very careful about comparing it to another game, even FO: NV. They're two similar yet different beasts.

Dude, millions of people feel exactly like OP does and some refuse to play the game. They over simplified the character creation no attributes, signs are changeable and skills reduced to you do it you keep it. In Oblivion you need to think more about your character than in Skyrim. Skyrim just pick up a sword and start swinging everything is done for you. Nothing hard about this system in Skyrim. Some aspects in Skyrim are awesome but it is not the best in all of the games. Oblivion has things in it that some will say it is the best game ever with similar descriptions that are used to describe Skyrim. I don't mind a game being developed for consoles but I do mind a game created for consoles being dummied down and consoles given exclusivity. The last thing that really angered me is when they stopped future development of Skyrim. We could had have one more DLC, couldn't we? The reason why it makes me angry because the XBOX exclusive ended so now it is time to move on!? They are going to have do a lot better for the next game for me to even purchase it.

If you have it on PC you could try a variety of mods that add to the depth and available choices. There are mods that extend the guild questlines out so you have to be in the guild a certain amount of ingame days before you'll get the next proper story quest, etc. Mods like Skyrim Redone which overhaul almost everything, Frostfall and basic needs etc for the hardcoe mode you liked in FO:NV.

If like me and many other people, you don't have the game on PC? Then I suggest you just find a different game to play if Skyrim is so undesirable to you. No point trying to force things. If you have it on PC though, definately try out some mods.

There are many, many places in your post where you forgot to add: "In my opinion"...

Without takng this to off topic...

I completely agree with that, it's not even Halo anymore. And i dislike 343 for messing up Reach with it's zero bloom and TU rubbish. I could rant for ages about Halo 4..... but i won't here

If I want to play some TES and skyrim is getting a bit tedious, i'll just play the older games.

Exactly.

Bethesda, like every other game developer recognizes that producing a simple, throw away product will sell millions upon millions of copies.

Nobody is going to produce video games aimed at niche, old-school table-top gamers because:

1) Cost prohibitive, labor intensive.

2) Limited, aging demographic.

3) Limited profit.

We are getting old OP. TES is now about killing stuff, being overpowered, having no challenge, avoid any possibility of failing, graphics, transforming into things marriage and building houses. It's alright. That's what kids like these days. Maybe it's time old farts move on to better games or stay with the old (what now seems like extremely hardcoe Oblivion and Morrowind) Let the young ones argue about PC specs and nudie mods.

"Nobody" is a harsh word in ths context. Wasteland 2, Divinity: Original Sin, Project Eternity and Torment: Tides of Numenera are great projects in development by legendary RPG makers that seem aimed at that exact niche of gamers

And the same can be said about your posts? You forgot to add "In My Opinion" as well. So don't think I am the only one with my opinion. Look there is people out the some of them my friends and they where angry they bought it and found out it was not what they expected. Always one in the crowd.