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you can do that, you are just going to have to think a little more before going into battles. A little inconvenient, I know

Don't forget enemies that fight like you,will have the same problem.
Do you not think that being able to block,have a sword in one hand and a spell in another is overpowered?
Don't forget there are defensive spells too,and also ice now slows enemies down too.
You will still be able to fight well,but you may have to re-think with certain enemies,i personally like that.
Each to their own

it still doesn′t explain away the fact I already have a weapon right there in my hand, why should I need to fiddle with a quick slot if I already have the weapon in my hand

it makes no sense

Ralos, please try and see reason.

You seem to like the idea of having to use your brains for strategically switching to the appropriate spell for countering specific attacks, problems or enemies that turn up on screen, so from that I think you like a little bit of a challenge. This blocking bit is no different than that since it forces you(the player) to react quickly and use your skills and brains(as a player) to evade and block threats on screen at precise moments.

As far as I know, Skyrim is not going be an MMORPG.So they don't need to balance every combat style.

A mage cant block has far fewer hps and less if any armor and NO armor perks or block perks......

And they cant backpedal.

What exactly did you expact would happen? That magic and its use would stay the same?

Thats ,rubbish,dev's like and try to find a balance as much as possible,to meet more demands overall.
I don't want my [censored] wiped in a game or be a god.
Yeah i want to have power,but i also want to be punished if i don't use the right tactics etc.
If i can't think quick enough,i should get my [censored] handed to me.

Bethesda makes the calls and the rules of the world. That complaint of yours is about as valid as someone complaining that he cannot cast any spells while using a two handed weapon or a one handed weapon + shield equipped like you could in Oblivion. It was Oblivion combat system, now we are in the Skyrim combat system. You adapt or you die

Well said mate....well said

The perpetual argument to defend flawed designs.

Sorry...i didn't realize you'd played the game already....my mistake.
So whats the game like?

as a very wise gamer reviewer ones said (while playing threw Final Fantasy 10 mind you)

"there is suspending my disbelief, and then there is insulting my f word intelligence"

this is a case of it, again I have a sword right there in my hands

*boots up Oblivion* look in this I can block with my sword in one hand

it just seam so contrived.

Because using a shield to block will be way more effective in game than using two weapons. It's a give and take. A lot of people will go sword and board because it will most likely offer the greatest balance between offense and defense.

Oh, and blocking is still possible with dual wielding. It's sword/magic that was said the player cannot block while using.

Happens in every game. I'm too tired to rebuke them and tell them that it is my right to complain and whine. Because guess what, I pay (by extension) Bethesda's salary, so yes I have a right to complain on a product I bought.

I will probably still get Skyrim if there is no blocking for spellswords, however it definitely makes me not want to preorder/get the collectors edition. Like many have said, why dumb down combat? If you don't want mages and warriors colliding in that way simply make it like oblivion where you can still cast spells with sword or shield in hand BUT add a twist: the spell loses like 50% of its potency. Problem solved, crisis averted. (Ironic since this concept of just lowering effectiveness is what they did with some of the blocking from what I heard)

In oblivion you could have a shield in one hand ,a sword in the other and still cast spells...so it looked like the spells came out of your knuckles or sword handle....
THAT to me,did not seem right.

Plus, if you were to use a spell, weapon, and blocking...wouldn't you get less of an opportunity to get higher level perks in each?
as it is , being more of a specialist grants better perks in an area, right?
The shield is now getting perks as well.

I think Bethesda made the right choice, and this will definately balance the character so we are not too uber in everything at once.

I agree that aspect was a bit broken, but that is already fixed with making spells a thing you equip, so it is already balanced...well it would be if they didn′t pull that block restriction out of there rear

Oh I get it! So while dual wielding, left trigger and right trigger swing the weapons in your left and right hands, but if you press both triggers at the same time you can block while dual wielding.

...What? just... what?

How would it make you gain anymore perks/power than usual? Thats really assuming the developers are pretty dumb and can't implement anything at all. Most people have said they would just quickly switch to magic and back to shield anyway, whats the difference if you can have a shield equipped and cast? None relating to gaining perks.

Yes, they do. Single player balance is just as important to devs as multiplayer balance. Ask a game dev and see what he says... no one wants one facet of a game to overshadow the others. That leads to people ignoring certain playstyles, and eventually people will complain that those ignored playstyles are nerfed. This leads to negative feedback to devs, which is a no no. The best remedy to the solution is make sure nothing is overpowered in game. That's why you can't wield a melee weapon, a spell, and have the ability to defend as well as someone who is using let's say sword and shield (and I k.ow blocking isn't as effective with weapons as shields in game, just making a point). Another thing is mechanics... holding both triggers while having sword and shield will most likely cast the spell... how do you implement blocking when you only have a weapon and a spell? It's not as easy as you might think.

Your assuming spells work in such a way that being able to block at all is balanced while using them.... Thats a bad assumption.

Unequip the spell seem a godsolution playwise.. its like you decided to loose grip on the spell (concetration) to be able to defend yourself.
I hope equiping medium to ++ shield will take more than one second.

And yes both triggers is always a block. If you have shield long double trigger = shield bash.

A gamedesign is flawed only if it's unfun to the point the game doesn't sell as much as expected. This isn't a real life world simulator. This is a game. Bethesda makes the game design which means that for each game, they write a set of world rules that they believe will make for a good game. Game rules are a collection of "can do" and "cannot do" with some long overarching goal the player keeps in mind. From the point of view of the player, a game is (or should be) some challenge at heart. We use the tools available to us (the "can do") to overcome the challenges ("cannot do") to reach the final goal. Every single limitation the game rules impose on us can be seen both as a frustrating roadblock/bad design or as an interesting challenge the player should overcome and derive fun in the process. A flawed design is thus mostly a subjective point of view unless you can prove that the majority of the intended audience won't like the design, and then there's always the option that another completely unrelated population might pick up the game instead thanks to that.




It's far too early for you to say it's a flawed design.

This is what the developers seem to have said, but the issue is that if you had a spell in the left hand and a sword in the right, can you block with the sword?

And like I said in a earlier post there is no reason to not be able to from a balance standpoint, they could just lower effectiveness of the block. I just can't get over how the combat would actually be WORSE (from a technical standpoint) than the games predecessor.

EDIT: Thankfully as Mordy just mentioned there isn't much reliable proof to say we can't parry (block) using a single one handed weapon.

eh no...they made it clear spells are to all intent and purpose classed as a 1 handed item, meaning you must hold it in one hand, so there is still a fully legit opening to make holding both triggers makes you block with a weapon if you have one in one of your hands.