Agreed.

And that comic is hilarious lol

Neither one is better. They both have their good and bad points. I will be getting FO4 for console because I already have an XBox1 while my PC will barely play it.

Also, a lot of people are mobile, which means it's easy to carry around a console when they are on the go.

To true my PC case is a monster and weighs a ton and is awkward to carry, also takes up alot of space which is at a premium.

Wrong.
I still play a few FPS games split-screen with friends. (Halo, Borderlands) It's way funner than playing with strangers online.
Not to mention the hundreds of popular games on older consoles that are not online. (N64, Playstation, etc)

You seem to only be speaking of modern gaming, which is a small percentage of gaming culture as a whole since it's far older than the internet.

1. System requirements aren't always clear, you can see different performance depending on your GPU manufacturer and drivers - usually fixable, but it requires you to take a look at the drivers at the very least. It's also a gamble if your PC is at or between minimum and recommended requirements, in that it might run but too poorly.

2. Older games often don't run on newer systems. Fallout 3 is notoriously unreliable on Windows 7. Steam doesn't give a [censored], they actually sold games which didn't work at all - GOG is a much better place for older titles, but even there I can't run any Spellbound games without massive flickering unless I fix them manually first.

For me, a lot of it is because so many games for PC are going the digital route and my internet svcks(5gb data cap). Also, a lot of games for consoles are either never ported over to the PC, or are done so very, very poorly.

I didnt say it was DEAD. I just said it wasn't a "thing" which implies its not as popular anymore. (example: Denim Jackets are not a thing, people still wear them)

I still like to play split screen on old consoles with friends its just a rarity. Mainly because we get into the inevitable fight over screen watching XD

I agree on certain levels. Sometimes it requires checking your drivers, but that can be lumped back into maintenance. If you dont keep your drivers and such updated you're going to have problems. (which by the way has been improoved upon greatly the last couple years)

When it comes to older games on newer OS's the same argument can be made for old games on new consoles. (yes alot of the consoles are always working on backwards compatibility) Plus on PC you can download an emulator for damn near everything.

Im not saying either PC or Console have the upperhand in either area, im saying they're even in both areas.

For every fault on console i can name a fault on pc. for every fault on pc i can name a fault on console. for every pro on console i can name a pro on PC etc... etc...

The point is, every platform has its pros and cons, neither are better or worse than each other except in opinion. Nobody wants to hear that their platform is worse than another so people will defend it. Thats where the whole PC vs console wars came from.

Ease of use. It's cheaper to buy a console at ￡200 that will last me onwards from 5 years, as opposed to about ￡1000+ for various PC parts - which will need upgraded/replaced from time to time. Buying a brand new console still works out cheaper.

Console can run any game on it, stability. Whereas PC games need specific PC builds just to load at a decent rate.

Basically, console pros are; cheap and ease of use.

There's also another point which I'm forgetting.

Amazing. I went through 2 GC's, and 3.5 Xbox360's (the .5 is a 360 power box dieing) through those consoles runs. A consoles RRoD's or disc reader burns out means you have to replace the whole thing, were a PC you can just swap out the faulty part for dirt cheap most of the time (unless it's a video card).

It's never been an either/or thing with me - I always have a PC, but I've always had at least one if not two or three current consoles.

I prefer gaming on PC (the graphics will tend to be better so long as my PC stays ahead of the cycle,) and especially now I have a wife and kid its more convenient to play with headphones on (which is easier for me in front of a PC.)

But I also have games on consoles - mostly for couch multiplayer really. I can play Lego Batman much easier with my son on a couch via console than at a computer desk, for example.

Or sometimes I just want a game and its exclusive to one system or another...

If you know what the faulty part is, sure, and if not preferably have spare parts so you can troubleshoot and test all the stuff until the faulty part is found. If it's the motherboard that gone bonkers you might get symptoms thinking it might be any other part like RAM, GPU or whatever. Back in 2005 I had a faulty motherboard that would give me BSOD, but only while I was playing 3D games that put pressure on the GPU, so naturally I thought it was the GPU that was broken.

That said, I never had a broken console, not sure what you been doing with yours Well, the optical drive in the PS2 is louder and slower than it used to be, but it still works.

Yeah, same. I play on both. PC for most multiplatform games, and then consoles for all the japanese games I want to play that aren't released for PC, like Yakuza 5 (PS3) and Xenoblade Chronicles X (Wii U) that are released soon.

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Like Freddo, I own multiple consoles and have never had one fail. My Xbox 360 and PS3 are both over 5 years old and get used almost every week and are both still going strong. The older 360s had some problems with the heat sink that could lead to red ring of death, but starting with the "elite" line of Xboxes released in 2008 or 2009, those issues were pretty much fixed.

They are easy to use and buy (as in, don't need to interpret all the various numbers and terms associated with PC hardware, you just buy it and it works), and relatively cheap.


Playstation 4 commercials say "This is for the players".
PCs are for the professionals and enthusiasts. And as a bonus, they also play games

I'm going to say, from the burnt wire smell and the black marks across the green boards.... a short caused the Motherboard to fry. But not knowing much about the innards of electronic things, I could be wrong. While the 360 would come on and I could hear whurrling, nothing showed on the tv... sometimes the disc tray would pop out, sometimes it wouldn't. It might have been fixable, but not by me.

As I said though, that 360 spent 2 years bouncing/vibrating around in a semi, it was already 3 yrs old at that time( maybe a wee bit more...I don't remember exactly when it got bought) and it's been 2 full yrs since we were over the road... plus a couple months. My husband has a ps3 and a ps4, the ps3 has been replaced since we were over the road. Actually I guess it was 7 yr's old... I can't add that's for sure...or I'll say I forgot to add in the 2 yrs that it's been since were were over the road.

I have yet to replace it, but I will, as I really like the ability to come home from work at 11pm and just turn it and the tv on and play for an hr or so, not wait til everything boots up. ( I shut down my pc when not in use and if storms are in the area unplug it...well all the electronics, tv's included).

By the time a console gen is over (5-8 years), you've likely also replaced all/most of your PC.

Also, 90% off Steam sales is old games, not new releases. So trying to compare that to Black Friday for new console games is silly. Compare it to the racks of used/Greatest Hits/discounted ones. I got plenty of games in the PS2 & 3 eras for $10-15. Not even all used. I also enjoyed the "buy 2 get one free" sales that Gamestop sometimes had.

I've had issues with PC games not running right (and have avoided a number of old/imported games, when I looked at their Steam forums and saw endless "OMG, won't run!" posts.)

I've never understood where these "scratched discs" come from - do people not take any care of their media? (I did have one console issue - a PS1 disc didn't want to play right in my PS2. Of course, it was a used game I got for $6, and I returned it, so.... )

Actually, I think the only multiplayer-with-friends videogaming I've done in the past few years was playing in my buddy's living room on his Wii. Of course, that wasn't split-screen, it was round-robin/hotseat.

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Anyway, I've played both computer and console games for thirty years. Why? One big reason was they had entirely different games. In the SNES/PS1 era, for instance, I played buckets of JRPGs and platformers on console. On PC, I played entirely different games.

Another factor was the hardware issue - I haven't always been a dedicated "upgrade my computer constantly" person. So, during the PS2 era, when my computer lagged behind, I played lots of games on that.... (and again, in different genres).

PS3 era.... well, I had better computer access there, but I still played for the exclusives. The majority of games I played on PS3 were not available on PC. Or they were controller-centric, so they'd play better on my console. (I did eventually get a X1 controller for my PC, due to having a Best Buy gift card to burn & having a few PC indie games that really need a controller to work right).

Haven't gotten a PS4 yet, mostly since there not enough exclusives that I care about yet. Next year, that might change - gotta see what all comes out.

As for the "ease of use" argument - well, that made more sense back in the PS3, and especially PS2-and-earlier eras. Now that the damn things need constant updates, are online most of the time, have all those stupid streaming apps/etc.... yeah, complication. Still less than a PC, since there's no dealing with driver updates, but still.

Of course, my blu-ray player has the same issues. Was kind of a moment when I brought the thing home the first time, turned it on, and it said "Hey, gimme your Wifi password, need to update my system software!" Wha.......

Yeah, consoles are becoming more like PCs every generation. But still, not having to deal with driver updates and being unable to install software does make them much less prone to weird behaviour than PCs. And there are no console viruses Well, as far as i know

I have to agree. Splitscreen is the only way I play with friends. Speaking over a mic is just too time consuming. And I don't have a lot of time to spare.

E.g. Halo, Minecraft, Smash, Kirby, Mario, etc.

My workstation is designed for gaming, CAD, and A/V processing. I switched to an Xbox 360 to save on the electric bill. I considered a PS/3 at the time. The 360 had more of the games I play.

Going over to a friend's house is less time-consuming than activating a mic?

Simplicity and easy to use. With a PC there are a variety of technical factors to consider and be knowledgeable of. While a console is as simple as plugging in and playing, with the addition of other steps of course, but nothing anyone with any amount of common sense will have trouble with.

There is also the common conception that gaming on a PC is more so expensive. Which it can be, but if you know where to look, it really isn't as bad as people like to think.

I've been gaming on both PC and console for years and I enjoy both experiences equally. Always good to have both available to you. There are some nice games on both platforms.

Part of it is ease of use for sure. My brother has admitted my PC blows his Xbox One out of the water graphics wise, but he doesn't feel like messing with settings to get the best playability to graphics/FPS level. And he thinks mods are cool, but isn't willing to deal with installing them especially because if you botch it you can break the game.

Cost is part of it too. Sure, you can build a cheap PC that performs on par with a console, but as someone mentioned earlier as games continue to come out you might not be able to run a new game very well, while the console will do just fine, forcing upgrades earlier.

Someone also pointed out having a hard time getting Fallout 3 to run on Windows 7. Don't know what their issue was, works fine for me and I didn't have to use any sort of workaround. I even play games as old as Mechwarrior 4 just fine with only needing to run it in XP compatibility mode. Same with X-Wing and others.

I have roommates. And people come over to my dorm. Getting online with friends back home takes enormous amounts of time, and I have to spend almost every minute studying.

And when I come home from college, I live in the middle of nowhere. So online multiplayer's out of the question.

I used to play on a console and a PC but eventually stopped playing on consoles. Here's my short list of reasons:

- The player base for mulitplayer was similar to me.

- Exclusive titles (Halo, Forza, Fable, Gears of War etc..)

- It just works. No performance issues or tweaking.

- Compartmentalizing work and play

- Couch co-op felt more accessible

- Building a PC that could handle anything maxed out is expensive.

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With a bit of time and a lot of money, most of these issues went away.

Perhaps not but it's more fun!