why did tiber septim decide to take over all of tamriel

Post » Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:59 pm

was it greed or what
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Wayne Cole
 
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Post » Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:06 pm

Basically, prophecy. That's one of the reasons, anyway. You might need to know that Tiber Septim is technically more than one person, but I'll leave this to you to believe it and/or research it for yourself and see what I mean.

Read http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/arcturian.shtml. Good info in it.

edit: I think that's technically the ONLY reason why really: Nordic elders called Greybeards foretell a prophecy about one that will become ruler of Tamriel. http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/wulfharthsongs.shtml, the first (recorder) Underking, thinks it is he who will do this. When the Greybeards tell him the prophecy, his form literally cannot handle the awesome power of their voices and thus he is blasted to ash. a boy, Hjalti, hears the prophecy and is reminded to "remember the color of betrayal." Scratch that.
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Tanya Parra
 
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Post » Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:56 pm

It was a pub wager.

Okay, no, it wasn't. Some might choose to answer the question metaphysically, but I think that's a little unlikely myself. Tiber Septim may have been a master, but there's no rule that Lorkhan aspirants need to conquer the entire continent, even if pursuing a feminine principle embodied in the concept of Land. I'd think the desire to become a god came later, with some knowledge and experience under his belt. You probably understood none of that, but that's fine. I'm anticipating someone else padding out a theory on that.

No, Tiber Septim took over Tamriel for the same reason any conqueror conquers; ambition, authority, status, and so on. Also, the traditional eminence embodied by a role like that of an emperor, and committing a name to posterity. And though it's kind of nice that this thread suggests the idea we live in a world where the ambitions of conquerors are wholly alien to our mindset, still it's something that I'd hope we be familiar with from history.
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Post » Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:03 am

And on a more superficial note, attempts to unite Cyrodiil were periodic ever since Alessia. And once you're sitting on White Gold Tower... it's the natural trajectory of history.

Speaking of Alessia, I jusr re-read the Adabal-a and the Song of Pelinal, while listening to the Kingdom of Heaven soundtrack. God, it's so beautiful.
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Post » Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:41 pm

we know he had a tough fight against the nords,orcs and redguards being natural fighters and all i belive all 3 are taught to fight from birth
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Post » Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:23 am

No, Tiber Septim took over Tamriel for the same reason any conqueror conquers; ambition, authority, status, and so on. Also, the traditional eminence embodied by a role like that of an emperor, and committing a name to posterity. And though it's kind of nice that this thread suggests the idea we live in a world where the ambitions of conquerors are wholly alien to our mindset, still it's something that I'd hope we be familiar with from history.


Eh, I suppose.

Yeah, in a world where so much metaphysical crap happens, i guess you can take it a lil overboard sometimes.
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Neliel Kudoh
 
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Post » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:24 pm

From birth! With little swords ting ting ting! And dummies attached to the heads of their enemies!
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Post » Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:58 pm

From birth! With little swords ting ting ting! And dummies attached to the heads of their enemies!

yup its the cuttest thing you would see how cute he thinks he's daddy
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Laura Wilson
 
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Post » Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:17 am

I think he did this to unite the people.Reign in peace;stop the tribal fighting,etc...
If I were king and had the power to end such trivial things.I think I would it.Of course;I am sure vanity plays some roll in such actions.Vanity could be considered greed I suppose.
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Post » Mon Jul 26, 2010 12:35 pm

And though it's kind of nice that this thread suggests the idea we live in a world where the ambitions of conquerors are wholly alien to our mindset, still it's something that I'd hope we be familiar with from history.


An interesting point. I guess we're nerds trying to understand the thought processes of alpha males, in a way.
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Post » Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:47 pm

Cuz he had an all powerful big stompy robot and a dragon lying around, just begging to be used. :D
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Post » Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:25 pm

I imagine that he and many others wanted to regain the glory of the Reman Empire. And there was a lot of fighting happening, and unity would bring peace. Or at least more peace than just sitting around watching your neighbors kill each other over and over again. Not to mention that a quitter (and his descendents probably) couldn't wear the Amulet of Kings. :obliviongate:
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Post » Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:05 am

I imagine that he and many others wanted to regain the glory of the Reman Empire. And there was a lot of fighting happening, and unity would bring peace. Or at least more peace than just sitting around watching your neighbors kill each other over and over again. Not to mention that a quitter (and his descendents probably) couldn't wear the Amulet of Kings. :obliviongate:

my theory is he became to power hungry or the under king said the other places are calling you a wimp and he said now its on but seriously he proply didnt give a flying(censored) about the other lands it is a fact the legions are taught 2 or more prong attacks as recrutes
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Post » Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:02 pm

why did napeleon wanted europe, why did stalin wanted europe, why did hitler wanted europe, for the seem reason as tiber septim wanted tamriel .
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Post » Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:24 pm

why did napeleon wanted europe, why did stalin wanted europe, why did hitler wanted europe, for the seem reason as tiber septim wanted tamriel .

because it was there or they were bored
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Post » Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:29 am

yup and powerhunger is a typical male thing, well he got luck since a bunch of gods and apperatus helped hm, but the fact is the seem.
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Post » Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:10 pm

yup and powerhunger is a typical male thing, well he got luck since a bunch of gods and apperatus helped hm, but the fact is the seem.

and bs if you ask me but imperials are weak alone get one alone and he/she cowars in fear
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Jason King
 
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Post » Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:00 am

wasn't tiber septim a breton, imperials didn't exist back than :huh:
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Post » Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:14 pm

why did napeleon wanted europe, ... for the seem reason as tiber septim wanted tamriel .


First because he was told to, then because the people wanted it, and finally because he could.

wasn't tiber septim a breton, imperials didn't exist back than :huh:


Gameplay.

edit:

Tiber was a Breton though.
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Nikki Morse
 
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Post » Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:05 am

well i might think that there were no imperials back than since there was no empire back than, most likely the people called imperials where called cyrodills back than, but that is me
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Enie van Bied
 
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Post » Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:07 pm

And Colovians and Nibeneans.
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naana
 
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Post » Mon Jul 26, 2010 4:53 pm

Nevermind. Eh, just regret posting it.
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Julie Serebrekoff
 
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Post » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:58 pm

Tiber wasn't fascist and/or insane; his reign was..."good," for lack of a better term.


Owh c'mon, you should know better then to do historical figures off like that.
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Post » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:37 pm

Eh, you're right. Guess it was a bit of bias on my part. Hastily posted, as well.

Hmm. Maybe it was the thrice-incorrect uses of the word "wanted" that made me say it...
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JaNnatul Naimah
 
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Post » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:20 pm

For the same reasons that Alexander the Great conquered the Persian Empire: Ambition.
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