Why didn't anyone harvest vehicles?

Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:46 pm

So the vehicles in Fallout have mini reactors (correct me if I'm wrong) in them to power them. Did no one think of harvesting these for use as weaponry? I assume if you got enough of these to blow at once it could be quite destructive but again, correct me if I am wrong as I only started playing Fallout with Fallout 3.
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Joe Bonney
 
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:27 pm

The guy who thought of this and was doing it in game unfortunatly was caught in an explosion and killed while harvesting when a stray raider bullet ignited the car he was working under.

I actully think this is a fair Idea but I doubt many would have the know how to do it, and seems very dangerous kinda like handling old dynamite after the glycerin has started seeping from it, with the added danger of micro reactor is probally seeping rads as well. I think mainly the exploding cars were put in to well look cool but maybe your on to something with a workbench weapon thats like a mortar if your feeling lucky when you try to use it.
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Laura-Jayne Lee
 
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:16 pm

in gene4ral there was a lot more that could have been scavenged in all of the fallout games.
especially if it is metal.
those cars laying around? armor, weapons, shelter, tools..

but them laying around lets you know its post apoc as well, so.

eh
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:22 pm

Exploding cars is a Fallout 3 things put in for http://www.break.com/usercontent/2009/7/michael-bay-explosions-821047. Why people did not take out the parts that make it go boom? I have no idea. Why did they not farm or rebuild or make a working economy?

Fallout and Fallout 2 had people "harvesting" cars to make carts. They would cut the front end off and have a brahmin pull it. They would also use cars to build walls with.

Not all cars were nuclear powered. Some did run on gas but as gas ran out people just stopped using them. The Highwayman in Fallout 2 runs on powercells. Fallout 3 added cars with built in nuclear stuff which makes no sense because uranium was also running out.

There is no logic in having the cars explode. Picture yourself in DC sometime before October 23,2077. Its a nice sunny summer day. So you make a picnic for your family. You, your wife and your 2.3 kids get into your nice new nuclear powered car for a nice sunday drive to the country. You get onto the interstate. The traffic is some what heavy. You are driving along when all of a sudden you have to slam on your brakes. The person behind you in their nuclear powered car smashes into you.

Well now the car that just hit you is going to blow up. It does which makes your car blow, which cause the cars around you to blow, which causes a chain reaction that results in every car on that interstate for miles to be engulfed in a nuclear hell storm. So much for that nice sunday drive with the family :thumbsup:

All the Chinese agents would have to do is go to a shopping mall parking lot and through a hand grenade to kill thousands of people.

The government would not allow people to drive around in something that is essentially a low yield nuclear bomb with wheels. Not even in the 1950s mindset.

end rant.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:57 pm

the corvega was a nuke pwoered car.. the only thing about F3 that didnt make sense is that the nuke cars exploded as if they were gas powered.

there were still cars laying around (at least the bodies) in F1 and 2.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:45 am

I wondered that too.

Maybe they did and there were a lot of cars.

Or maybe the mini nuclear reactors are not safe to handle for some people.

You would think some would use them for power though.

Or at least cut the cars up to build stuff.

Maybe they cut up the gas powered cars, which were safer to handle and none radioactive.

Megaton is build from old aeroplanes and buildings from a airfield.

Lots of explodable nuclear transport about is cool though, lol.

Useful for incinerating enemies, lol.

They explode in mushroom clouds, lol.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:59 pm

the corvega was a nuke pwoered car.. the only thing about F3 that didnt make sense is that the nuke cars exploded as if they were gas powered.

there were still cars laying around (at least the bodies) in F1 and 2.


I think the explosions make sense because they explode in mushroom clouds.

They explode like mini nukes do.

Maybe the cars are eroded with 200yrs of exposure.

They were probabely not as dangerous when new.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 12:45 pm

ya but nuclear bombs/explosions dont really work like that. \

at all.


i wont get as upset about it as others ive seen.. but it is kinda silly.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:52 am

ya but nuclear bombs/explosions dont really work like that. \

at all.


i wont get as upset about it as others ive seen.. but it is kinda silly.


It is alternate reality though. Everything is diferent.

Nothing has to be the same as here.

Not how they built nuclear reactors, or how they built nuclear bombs. Everything could be 3 times as explosive and strong.

And anyway, it is a game.

Set in a alternate reality.

So there is no point stressing over it.

Just enjoy the mushroom cloud explosions as you use nuclear transport to incinerate enemies, lol.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:32 pm

It's pretty much explained that the Corvegas and Chryslus vehichles, as well as any other nuclear mini-reactor powered car, are over 200 years old with little to no proper maintanence. Back in the day, the cars were likely very safe. "Well ma'am, you're reactors about to go out, we'll just ship off the old reactor to the desert waste disposal site, put in a new reactor, and it's all done!" But two hundred years of neglect is not good for something so delicate. Besides, why use cars when there are generators about?

Also, I was confused by the explosions, more because the mushroom clouds, mushroom clouds arent exclusive to nuclear explosions, it's a high energy explosion, but to imagine a car capable of making a mushroom cloud is questionable.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:13 pm

The Corvegas, and Highwaymen used Fusion power cells, theyre engines where electric. The nuclear powered cars in the FO universe used cold fusion, just like the PA.

the only reason for it is what Styles said, the "Micheal bay effect". Don't you remeber todd saying "hey it's not fallout with out nuclear bombs going off everywhere?" or some such?
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:59 pm

It's pretty much explained that the Corvegas and Chryslus vehichles, as well as any other nuclear mini-reactor powered car, are over 200 years old with little to no proper maintanence. Back in the day, the cars were likely very safe. "Well ma'am, you're reactors about to go out, we'll just ship off the old reactor to the desert waste disposal site, put in a new reactor, and it's all done!" But two hundred years of neglect is not good for something so delicate. Besides, why use cars when there are generators about?

Also, I was confused by the explosions, more because the mushroom clouds, mushroom clouds arent exclusive to nuclear explosions, it's a high energy explosion, but to imagine a car capable of making a mushroom cloud is questionable.




Thats true the first mushroom cloud ever recorded was in the American Civil war during the Siege of Petersburg. But back on topic who would work on the cars most blueprints, and repair guides would be destroyed and most people who know how to work on cars are dead unless their ghouls
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 10:06 am

To my understanding a mushroom cloud is formed when a very high yield explosive detonates and the air and creates a vacuum due to burning all of the air very quickly; air is drawn in from all directions but particles from the ground are also drawn up, creating the stem.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:37 pm

To my understanding a mushroom cloud is formed when a very high yield explosive detonates and the air and creates a vacuum due to burning all of the air very quickly; air is drawn in from all directions but particles from the ground are also drawn up, creating the stem.




Right thats what happened when the Union tried to undermine the Confederates defense line. They made a crater 170 feet long 120 feet wide and 30 feet deep but the idiots attacking ran right into the crater and got slaughtered
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:04 am

I like this Idea, as well as the fact that finding cars would be a useful way to collect parts, and make new items, weapons, and armour in the next fallout, it could also provide you with the ability to drive a car, or veichle for a short amount of time, and BTW to all the people who say, "You can't/couldn't do that, it's way to dangerous!" Or whatever, they have pills and stuff you ingest to get rid and defend aginst radiation, im pretty sure you could do this, and it would be made of reliable materials to protect it.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:09 pm

Hey Styles I saw some footage on nma that had some of black isles F3 game play, and I think Mr. Bay was coming to fo anyway. You ll have to watch it, but I swear a car blew up like an fo3 car when they were showing a pretty epic battle.

As for people learning to cars apart........There seem to be scientists in these games that with the right books could understand nuclear reactors. People with any tinkering ability what so ever would be all over those cars.

When I picked up fo3 I just accepted that there was some good reason why they didn t have at least a few cars. No one seems to even be trying to get them going. I just thought they knew something that I didn t about the car situation.

They could finish a giant 200 year old robot. They could get radiation out of water, but they don t even try to get a car going. The guy from the Commonwealth makes androids.

I could see bos scribes getting a car going and putting some mounted gattling lasers on it.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:49 am

If you can show me the link that would be great. Still the explosion could have been caused by something else but I can't say for sure because I have not seen it.

Before Fallout 3 cars were not nuclear powered as in having a built in nuclear reactor. They were electric, powered by fusion powercells. Fallout 3 came along and introduced the stupid idea that people before the great war drove around in nuclear bombs with wheels. Yeah, 200 years of neglect could have caused the safety systems to fail but a high speend car crash would also cause them to fail.

Another problem is that uranium was also running out and I doubt the USA government would let their remaining uranium supplies to be used to power cars.

Fallout has the old gas burning cars which no one used anymore due to no more gas but maybe ethanol or biodiesel (my guess for what the cars in Tactics used.) Then there are the electric cars that ran on fusion powercells and Fallout 3's Michael Bay cars.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:50 am

If you can show me the link that would be great. Still the explosion could have been caused by something else but I can't say for sure because I have not seen it.

Before Fallout 3 cars were not nuclear powered as in having a built in nuclear reactor. They were electric, powered by fusion powercells. Fallout 3 came along and introduced the stupid idea that people before the great war drove around in nuclear bombs with wheels. Yeah, 200 years of neglect could have caused the safety systems to fail but a high speend car crash would also cause them to fail.

Another problem is that uranium was also running out and I doubt the USA government would let their remaining uranium supplies to be used to power cars.

Fallout has the old gas burning cars which no one used anymore due to no more gas but maybe ethanol or biodiesel (my guess for what the cars in Tactics used.) Then there are the electric cars that ran on fusion powercells and Fallout 3's Michael Bay cars.


Yeah I agree that it was a pretty sorry state of affairs when F3 introduced the nuclear bomb cars, was it you who suggested the senario that one explodes and creates a chain reaction down a highway or something? Quite clearly they compeletly misunderstood the nature of automobiles in Fallout; now that Obsidean re-added Poseidon Energy stations every two feet which I believed are petrol stations it makes everything even more confusing. :confused:
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:21 am

Yeah I agree that it was a pretty sorry state of affairs when F3 introduced the nuclear bomb cars, was it you who suggested the senario that one explodes and creates a chain reaction down a highway or something? Quite clearly they compeletly misunderstood the nature of automobiles in Fallout; now that Obsidean re-added Poseidon Energy stations every two feet which I believed are petrol stations it makes everything even more confusing. :confused:


Yep I was the one that suggested the chain reaction senario. One car crash on a busy interstate and everyone for miles would die in a nuclear hell fire, chain reaction.

The head guy of Fallout 3 pretty much said "it would not be Fallout without explosion going off all the time" or some such crap. Clearly a disciple of Michael Bay.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:28 pm

Yep I was the one that suggested the chain reaction senario. One car crash on a busy interstate and everyone for miles would die in a nuclear hell fire, chain reaction.


Do we know that F3 cars are actually nuclear powered? I mean those Red Rocket Stations don't really have anything in them, nothing that would indicate loading uranium.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:03 pm

i am wondering what people think the "fusion" in fusion cell means.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:51 am

Do we know that F3 cars are actually nuclear powered? I mean those Red Rocket Stations don't really have anything in them, nothing that would indicate loading uranium.


They are, I am not sure where its mentioned, Chryslus Building?

They do have what looks like a recator housing on the back. Cars did not blow up before Fallout 3 and the ones in Fallout 3 spread radiation around which would point to their still being uranium in the cars power supply.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 9:46 pm

if your car is runningg on MF cells, it is running of nuclear fusion.. it may convert that radiation to electicity (which is what nuclear reactors do), but the fuel source is still nuclear...... unless you are running on energy cells isntead.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:53 pm

i am wondering what people think the "fusion" in fusion cell means.


Fusion Cell of course, doesn't that just make things even more complicated? So if the cars are powered by Fusion Reactors now in F3 instead of batteries do they fill cars up with water or H+ ions? Gah! The fact that they even explode in a nuclear mushroom is ridiculous, but of course it's SCIENCE! so in this one instance all of laws of physics cease to exist so that a mushroom cloud can be generated from such a small explosion.
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Post » Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:42 pm

i am wondering what people think the "fusion" in fusion cell means.


There ia a world of difference from a small fusion cell IE battery that you connect to a electric engine and a car that has a mini nuclear reactor powering it! Those cars must need alot of water to cool that reactor. People think filling a radator with water is a pain. Filling the reactor coolant would be murder, having to stop every 10 miles or so lol.
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