Why didn't someone pull a Mr. House in D.C.?

Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:26 pm

Ok lets look at the problem now. Genocide. They seriously didnt need to run around with flamers killing locals. Else i would gladly throw my gun to them if i could, but the idea they have in mind is wiping the state clean, as in completely clean. Kill the wastelanders, its not like they have brains or anything. Kill the Ghouls, they are gonna turn on us anyways in 200 years. Kill the super mutants, cause when you are mutated that definently means that you are stupid and dont deserve to live right? Well i say NO! The people are fighting for something, and that is the will to live. Eastcoast BoS are actually trying to HELP people not to secure the wasteland.

Except Lyon's BoS, as revealed by the ghouls of underworld, regularly take pot shots at the ghouls. In this respect, what's the difference?
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 11:25 pm

Except Lyon's BoS, as revealed by the ghouls of underworld, regularly take pot shots at the ghouls. In this respect, what's the difference?
Their armour is closer to white than the Enclave's obvious 'baddy' black armour
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 5:02 am

Except Lyon's BoS, as revealed by the ghouls of underworld, regularly take pot shots at the ghouls. In this respect, what's the difference?

The difference between the Enclave and Lyons BoS? Well the obvious is that the Enclave want to kill everyone that isn't Enclave and Lyons guys just take pot shots at ghouls when they could easily go into Underworld and kill them all.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:01 pm

Except Lyon's BoS, as revealed by the ghouls of underworld, regularly take pot shots at the ghouls. In this respect, what's the difference?
Ghoul racism (or in some cases people that mistake ferals for normal) can be cause they are afraid. If fallout would be real, i would barely risk letting any wastelander get close to me, just cause the fact that they might be raiders.
And like the DUDE said they could easely clear out the underworld, but their orders are to pwn supper mutants. Problem with almost every army is that many soldiers tend to get trigger happy (im a good example)
So there you have a few reasons. i′ll let you sleep on them
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 8:35 pm

supper mutants

Supper mutants!! Yummie!!
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 9:00 am

Indeed it would. Lets take a look at Eden's plan, which is generally considered the "worst" choice in Fallout 3 in terms of morality. On the surface it seems pretty cut and dry, murder=bad right? Well its a little more complicated than that.

Assuming the FEV was placed into the water supply, what you effectively have is a cleansing of the Capital Wasteland. True the virus makes no distinction between "innocent" wastelanders and more malevolent ones, but this is the cost of having a return to a "blank slate" from which to rebuild the CW without any threats at all to hinder it.

The main thing is that while blank-slating Mr. House or the NCR? You're losing tons of progress where tons of happy content citizens live.
The Capitol Wasteland? Everyone's [censored] miserable and they're not doing jack about it. This slate svcks, let's kill it.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 12:14 am

The main thing is that while blank-slating Mr. House or the NCR? You're losing tons of progress where tons of happy content citizens live.
The Capitol Wasteland? Everyone's [censored] miserable and they're not doing jack about it. This slate svcks, let's kill it.
Yeah well thats your opinion i still mass murdered the [censored] out of NCR.
Dont thing they will come after Vegas :D As for House. Well lets just say that c4′s are costly but they are worth every penny :cool:
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 6:51 pm

Because no rich geniuses liked D.C. enough to make sure it was saved.

That's why vegas was saved. One guy was rich and smart and had enough resources to save the place that he loved most.

Also, House stopped most of the nukes so there wasn't as much to rebuild as there is in D.C. Most buildings were left intact and only fell apart due to having no upkeep
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 3:02 am

So one thing that just struck me big time just now is.....why didn't anyone pull a Mr. House and rebuild D.C.? I know unlike D.C., Vegas was spared the bombs, but with all those rubble, and concrete all over, someone could have easily organised a revitalization of D.C. or something, clean up the streets, use the rubble to build concrete walls. (Or use concrete to make walls, then fill the walls with the rubble to save concrete. I mean, D.C. has a lot of food in it lying around I'm sure, if people just pulled together, they could have made it a shining example of what Men can do when they work together, instead people are sitting in a broken aircraft carrier and a nuke impact crater.

Real reason: Bethesda wanted to reboot the series with a style like Fallout 1. Also, Obsidian didn't think up House saving Vegas.

Fanwank answer: DC (the government specifically) was in denial about the looming nuclear holocaust. House on the other hand is pragmatic. House safeguarded Vegas while the people in DC were saying "ladidadidah. Those commies will never grow the stones to fire their weapons of mass socialism!"
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 2:17 am

Real reason: Bethesda wanted to reboot the series with a style like Fallout 1. Also, Obsidian didn't think up House saving Vegas.

Fanwank answer: DC (the government specifically) was in denial about the looming nuclear holocaust. House on the other hand is pragmatic. House safeguarded Vegas while the people in DC were saying "ladidadidah. Those commies will never grow the stones to fire their weapons of mass socialism!"
Government weren't in denial when they were building Vaults before House had his plan ;)
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 5:53 pm

Government weren't in denial when they were building Vaults before House had his plan :wink:

Vaults were never made to save people. The Vault experiment was to test how people would deal with problems living on spaceships. The government's (Enclave's) plan was that, in case a nuclear war ever happened, to colonize other planets. Or something like that. I'm a little rusty on my Fallout Bible.

EDIT: http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_Bible_0 This is semi-canon, and on top of that, the nature of the Vault Experiments is semi-canon in this document, making it...quarter canon? Anyhoo, this document has some things about the Vault Experiments.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 9:27 pm

Vaults were never made to save people. The Vault experiment was to test how people would deal with problems living on spaceships. The government's (Enclave's) plan was that, in case a nuclear war ever happened, to colonize other planets. Or something like that. I'm a little rusty on my Fallout Bible.
The Fallout Bible is of dubious canonical status at best. As for the Vaults, they were designed to test humanity under different stimuli according to President Richardson (such as not having as much food production capability etc) but they were built in-case of nuclear war, pandemics and other scenarios which would require them; given that they were built at all it's therefore evident that the government thought that nuclear war was a possibility; those Vaults were insanely expensive you know and years to complete.
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Post » Thu May 03, 2012 9:21 pm

The Fallout Bible is of dubious canonical status at best. As for the Vaults, they were designed to test humanity under different stimuli according to President Richardson (such as not having as much food production capability etc) but they were built in-case of nuclear war, pandemics and other scenarios which would require them; given that they were built at all it's therefore evident that the government thought that nuclear war was a possibility; those Vaults were insanely expensive you know and years to complete.

Your arguement is better written than mine. I cede to you good sir.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 5:26 am

Its obvious why DC is [censored] up while most of the West coast is fine (beside the endless war and criminals everywhere).
DC was [censored] by lots of nukes, im guessing that was the commies first priority, cause they might have thought destroing that would ruin the government. Another thing, nobody loved DC (as much) as House loved Vegas (soooo understandable).

If i was House i would surely have done the excact same thing, saving Vegas.
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