Crytek releases a triple-A title and all PC gamers do is cry and post on the Crytek forums that they hate Crytek. Meanwhile, the much larger base of console players are all enjoying the game.

The cost to develop games for PC must be harder than consoles (different hardware/software combinations, etc), there are fewer PC gamers than console gamers, and PC gamers are impossible to please. With every game from every developer, it's "No prone/lean/dx11/dedicated-servers/etc" from the PC gaming crowd.

And then PC gamers will end up pirating the game anyway.

So jeez, why bother trying to please PC children when developers can relax making triple-A titles for consoles that people will actually buy and enjoy? Crytek could maybe start a side business developing browser games for PC and make more money from casuals than from trying to please "hardcoe PC gamers."


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More people pirate games on Xbox 360 than they do on PC. So you can't really say that PC gamers are just going to pirate. Anyway most PC games that are pirated are done as to play a demo so that the player can decide whether or not they want the game. They may even play through the entire campaign and buy the real game for multiplayer or to just support the company for the future. I bought the game thinking it would be impressive, it turns out that I can play both the single player AND multiplayer for free, a waste of money. I would have been pleased if the game had been delayed just to fix any issues and get an anti-cheat system instead of making people pay for an official leaked beta of the game.

Most gaming companies* today don't actually develop for PC, they develop for consoles then port to PC.

There are few gaming companies* that actually develop mostly for the PC. Valve, Blizzard, and hopefully DICE are the only ones worth mentioning off the top of my head.

*Doesn't count indie devs.

A better question would be why do most software companies develop for PC and then do half-assed jobs?

MY reason for biching is they released a game with absolutely no form of anti-cheating system in place. Not to mention a large number of variables are settable client side instead of all being server side. It's careless development on their part.

Aside from all the hacking and multiplayer connection issues and unlocks being forgotten I was enjoying the game.

Crytek releases a triple-A title and all PC gamers do is cry and post on the Crytek forums that they hate Crytek. Meanwhile, the much larger base of console players are all enjoying the game.

The cost to develop games for PC must be harder than consoles (different hardware/software combinations, etc), there are fewer PC gamers than console gamers, and PC gamers are impossible to please. With every game from every developer, it's "No prone/lean/dx11/dedicated-servers/etc" from the PC gaming crowd.

And then PC gamers will end up pirating the game anyway.

So jeez, why bother trying to please PC children when developers can relax making triple-A titles for consoles that people will actually buy and enjoy? Crytek could maybe start a side business developing browser games for PC and make more money from casuals than from trying to please "hardcoe PC gamers."

I will explain what the main issue with Crytec is. In fact, I can't be bothered to type out an explanation for you. So I'll just quote myself from another thread:

Quote: Remember the forums all over the internet when the development of Crysis 2 was first announced? The most common question that was asked was about whether the consoles will drag down the PC and make the PC version "worse" than Crysis 1. They tried to calm us down by assuring us that the graphics will not be a step backwards from Crysis 2. We now have a game that looks better in terms of overall art direction and the environment settings, in my opinion. But all of that does not excuse the low resolution textures on the PC compared the the higher textures we had before.

This is Crysis and not any other game. I expected compromises because of the consoles, and the game still looks overall relatively beautiful, but the individual low quality textures are unforgivable.

On top of that, Crytek are also hurting themselves from this. You see, Crysis 1 and Crysis Warhead gained notoriety due to their high PC spec requirements. That benefits Crytek in that they include MEDIUM settings for more "common" PC specs, but also, the reputation of the game's "cutting edge", "history-making" advanced maximum levels promotes the game further than any other PC game graphics-wise.

Look at how many PC gamers upgraded their PC just to play Crysis. Everyone has heard the term: "CAN IT PLAY CRYSIS". Look at how many graphics card benchmarks reviews all over the internet used Crysis 1 as an important benchmark. So, what PC moaners are complaining about is for Crytek's own good. If you have a PC game that just blends in graphically with all the other PC games, then it is essentially just another PC game. If, on the other hand, you do the same game, but include a graphical option for super high resolution textures that make the game look outstanding and will be written down in history books for its impact on the PC world, then you, Crytek, benefit.

Cevat Yerli on an interview with PC Play in April 2008 stated that he was disappointed to see Crysis 1 leading the charts in piracy. Yet, by May 2010, Crysis 1 had sold over 3 million units (and its standalone expansion about 1.5 million units) making it one of the best selling PC games of all time. Why did it sell so well. Do you really think people bought that game for its storyline? I don't think so. There was nothing special about its storyline. The reason it was such a popular PC game was mostly due to its graphical notoriety.

Of course, Crysis 2 will also sell well on the PC, especially as the Crysis series has an established PC fan base. However, it is a shame that Crytek with this new game, which is still a good game, has turned their backs on their own "cutting edge" high PC reputation which made them successful.

Forget crysis its pretty much over for this series as far as PC is concerned. Time to start following a real PC game

The future standard is Battlefield 3.

The third video contains a bunch of ingame footage all run on a single gtx580.

http://www.ea.com/battlefield3/videos/faultline-episode-1
http://www.ea.com/battlefield3/videos/faultline-episode-2
http://www.ea.com/battlefield3/videos/faultline-episode-3

Forget crysis its pretty much over for this series as far as PC is concerned. Time to start following a real PC game

The future standard is Battlefield 3.

The third video contains a bunch of ingame footage all run on a single gtx580.

http://www.ea.com/battlefield3/videos/faultline-episode-1
http://www.ea.com/battlefield3/videos/faultline-episode-2
http://www.ea.com/battlefield3/videos/faultline-episode-3
Consolers can't have that, but they're still whining down at DICE's forums as to why their experience is severely limited both technically and gameplay wise. And they just don't take the "you're running 6 year old hardware" answer, they somehow expect miracles.

Damn that game looks beautiful, and showing it running flawlessly on a single card in it's pre-alpha stage without all the optimizations that are still going to be made, it's mind boggling. Thank god for their decision to drop DX9 and code it from the ground up using DX11, just goes to show how much consoles svck and how much we, PC gamers, have been held back because of them.

I have yet to see any console releases that have been put out for wii/ps3/360 that looks like a ported wii game.

Sonic and Sega all stars racing.

I agree.

Yeah we'll just have to wait for BF3.

Not sure why Crytek couldn't take the same "make a bad-ass PC version and then scale it back for the consoles" attitude instead of just designing their whole game around the lowest spec.

DICE is what crytek only wishes they could be now.

Hmmm why develope for PC well for one its cheaper as the companies dont have to pay fees for utilising console spacific software in there games. 2 all games are developed on the PC so as long as u stick to main manufacturers only a small minority of people will have problems (most serious gamers use a small variety of kit) so development is in fact cheaper most of the issues thats arison with this game has been becouse it was nurfed for the console market i watched a freind of mine play on the 360 today the GFX were awful If you sheep are happy with graphix we were seeing in PC games back in 2007 well good for you I play on the PC so I can enjoy the emertion that superior graphics gives me also I spend a hell of allot of money on games in a year and lets face it its just as easy to pirate games on console as it is on pc in many cases its actually easier one thing I was really glad of with crysis 2 is that it was NOT steam governed as steam is a bloody awful peice of buggy software. Any way back to the troll when you are a big boy maybe you will be able to aford a PC then you will realise just how much youve been ripped off by the industry remember to take your teacher an apple now theres a good little boy

If I'd know that this game was going to be buggy as **** after playing the demo, I would've just bought it on console like a smart person.

You want to know why we're "crying"? Because we paid $60 for a game that doesn't **** work. Go **** yourself.

cause some times consoles just dont cut it. Did Star craft 2 come out on consoles? ohhh wait they cant handle the glory or sending in 100 marines and marauders. Not to mention that rts on consoles fail. Seriously if you wanna go praise a gaming plateform that hit the curve and will not see a better game past cod than sit on your xbox ps3. If you wanna see games that last forever (because the comunity mods and creates other games with their engines) stay with pc. Who ever started this thread do us all a favor. KILL YOUSELF! wait you will fail at that more than crytec trying to code for a pc.

It is important to note that some people's complaints are not just things like DX11, prone, quicksave whatever.

The game on PC has GAME BREAKING bugs. Multiplayer just doesn't work, can't login. Nano catalyst resets randomly. That's why PC gamers are complaining. That is RIDICULOUS. I've bought the game - yes BOUGHT it - and haven't been able to properly play it because of the bugs. There are many people like me who are waiting on the patch to even play the game properly at all!

Again, I have to say - the PC version is totally broken! Forget worrying about "consolization" it is quite literally not functioning.

What this comes down to is this -

"Why make a game for a single platform when there are multiple with the technology?"

Crytek had the right idea to make it for the console. PC gamers have zero issue with it being on the console. The issue is - "Why do we have to suffer for console restrictions?"

Crysis one set the bar for PC graphics and High-End gaming genre. Crysis 2 was the 'next step' or so we were promised. Along with a variety of features ect... But Crytek says there going to deliver doesn't mean we shouldn't be upset with a broken promise. Most PC enthusiasts play crysis for its gorgeous grahpics and sandbox editor. But when developing for hte console crytek had to limit the resources. And push it out sooner then later. So Obviously the PC version will have to suffer.

So as I have said in another thread "PC gamers would of had ZERO issues waiting". We can't even begin to fathem why they would drop a 80% complete product on us. It has minior issues on the console, but huge issues on the PC.

So are rage isn't ill-kept. Crytek has lost a lot of faith from there roots. I hope there sales are worth it.

It is important to note that some people's complaints are not just things like DX11, prone, quicksave whatever.

The game on PC has GAME BREAKING bugs. Multiplayer just doesn't work, can't login. Nano catalyst resets randomly. That's why PC gamers are complaining. That is RIDICULOUS. I've bought the game - yes BOUGHT it - and haven't been able to properly play it because of the bugs. There are many people like me who are waiting on the patch to even play the game properly at all!

Again, I have to say - the PC version is totally broken! Forget worrying about "consolization" it is quite literally not functioning.

I havent found anything gamebreaking in the single player yet.... but Ive been sniffing around, and NO one has a working multiplayer apparently.

It is important to note that some people's complaints are not just things like DX11, prone, quicksave whatever.

The game on PC has GAME BREAKING bugs. Multiplayer just doesn't work, can't login. Nano catalyst resets randomly. That's why PC gamers are complaining. That is RIDICULOUS. I've bought the game - yes BOUGHT it - and haven't been able to properly play it because of the bugs. There are many people like me who are waiting on the patch to even play the game properly at all!

Again, I have to say - the PC version is totally broken! Forget worrying about "consolization" it is quite literally not functioning.

I havent found anything gamebreaking in the single player yet.... but Ive been sniffing around, and NO one has a working multiplayer apparently.

Yeah, it seems some people got lucky and didn't have the single player bugs =P

As a dedicated PC gamer who prefers almost all games on the PC, I find PC gamers to be one of the saddest lot out there. Piracy is rampant. They complain about even more than console gamers do. They say they want one thing and then frequently entirely contradict themselves a few years later.

I truly hope developers, Crytek included, continue to make games for the PC, but the community has so many hateful people and pirates in it, I understand why developers push towards the console market, as sad as it makes me.

Well said sir.

Heres one of the top issues, Console gamers control the market atm... right? wait... no they dont, Yes the console market is about 65% of the market share, but pleasing console gamers is easy, they dont care, they have no issues and if it breaks, they will go play mariokart with all their little friends... why?

Because if you -BUY- a console, you are ANNOUNCING TO THE WORLD that you are a casual gamer

ugh, this is getting out of hand... point of fact remains, maybe only 5% of pc gamers whine, you cant **** lump us all in with these douchebags, I honestly love the game, it has its flaws, it has its cuts, but hell, I still love the game(and im hardly experiencing any of these problems that are going on... I think those problems target the 5% whiney pc gamer group )

Console gamers have very low... if any... -standards- and thus developers can get away with anything on consoles, lately thats been seeping through on pc... well the last 2 yearsare prime examples, rushed released... DLCS.... I mean, I remember waiting for Max Payne.... everye month i checked it said... WHEN ITS DONE.... ugh... all you people whining about whiners and their whining about other whiners, are the problem more than the whiners im whining about...just kidding

Bottle that anger, play some mariokart, walk it off, and wait for a patch.. in the meanwhile 90% of the c2 community of pc gamers that CAN play... WILL play.. kthnxbye

PC elitism is so stupid that it that is mind boggling. To think that console gamers are all about Mario Kart clearly shows a great level of ignorance and arrogance. In the future you should try your ABSOLUTE best from commenting on stuff you lack knowledge on.

OP, go play Crysis and then come back here and tell me Crysis 2 is a Triple-A title!!!!

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OP, go play Crysis and then come back here and tell me Crysis 2 is a Triple-A title!!!!

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It seems as though most are forgetting that Crysis had it share of issues but why bring stuff like that up.

Because despite it's issues it was still widely regarded as a Triple-A title but, more importantly, it was PC only.

It is important to note that some people's complaints are not just things like DX11, prone, quicksave whatever.

The game on PC has GAME BREAKING bugs. Multiplayer just doesn't work, can't login. Nano catalyst resets randomly. That's why PC gamers are complaining. That is RIDICULOUS. I've bought the game - yes BOUGHT it - and haven't been able to properly play it because of the bugs. There are many people like me who are waiting on the patch to even play the game properly at all!

Again, I have to say - the PC version is totally broken! Forget worrying about "consolization" it is quite literally not functioning.

I havent found anything gamebreaking in the single player yet.... but Ive been sniffing around, and NO one has a working multiplayer apparently.

Yeah, it seems some people got lucky and didn't have the single player bugs =P

Never said it was bug free... just not buggy to the point of ruining the game for me.

Heres one of the top issues, Console gamers control the market atm... right? wait... no they dont, Yes the console market is about 65% of the market share, but pleasing console gamers is easy, they dont care, they have no issues and if it breaks, they will go play mariokart with all their little friends... why?

Because if you -BUY- a console, you are ANNOUNCING TO THE WORLD that you are a casual gamer

ugh, this is getting out of hand... point of fact remains, maybe only 5% of pc gamers whine, you cant **** lump us all in with these douchebags, I honestly love the game, it has its flaws, it has its cuts, but hell, I still love the game(and im hardly experiencing any of these problems that are going on... I think those problems target the 5% whiney pc gamer group )

Console gamers have very low... if any... -standards- and thus developers can get away with anything on consoles, lately thats been seeping through on pc... well the last 2 yearsare prime examples, rushed released... DLCS.... I mean, I remember waiting for Max Payne.... everye month i checked it said... WHEN ITS DONE.... ugh... all you people whining about whiners and their whining about other whiners, are the problem more than the whiners im whining about...just kidding

Bottle that anger, play some mariokart, walk it off, and wait for a patch.. in the meanwhile 90% of the c2 community of pc gamers that CAN play... WILL play.. kthnxbye

PC elitism is so stupid that it that is mind boggling. To think that console gamers are all about Mario Kart clearly shows a great level of ignorance and arrogance. In the future you should try your ABSOLUTE best from commenting on stuff you lack knowledge on.

No more stupid then the xbot, the wiitard, or the SDF. All platforms have their idiots....

....and btw, this PC gamer actually does enjoy Mario Kart as well. It, too, is a good game, dammit! XD