i was wondering why when u meet cameron at the end is he wearing the amulet of kings this is probably a stupid question. i tought hey since its his place his rules maybe

This has been asked many times in the lore section.

The best answer seems to be that he is in a line of Emporers that allow him to wear it.

I recommend searching or moving this to the lore forum. As I've said it's been discussed at length there.

Use the search engine a bit. This topic has been discussed many times already, like http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=805756&hl=camoran+kings+amulet and http://www.gamesas.com/bgsforums/index.php?showtopic=778139&hl=camoran+kings+amulet

It may be due to his vast powers, he may have learned how from the Mysterium Xarxes, or it could be because he is the son of the Cameron Usurper.

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It seems to me that he altered things in the paradise realm of his it,was talked about by Martin or in a book in game though I can't remember which.It explains something about him transfering or transforming it's power by opening the portal.Kinda reversing the Septim line.Cause it was actually Dagon's world.Anyway something down that line.I find some lore on the web doesn't always match up in game so if you really want to know search in game for answers.They are usally there.

One must have "the blood of the dragon" to wear it. I believe it's more metaphorical than real. One must have the ambition, the self power to wear it. Just as the Akaviri Potentate took over the rule of the Empire yet not gates opened.

He got a twist tie and used that to hold the necklace on.

Ureil septim the 7th had one illiget son, whats to say he did not have another with a altmer.

The combined pleadings of the fans for a storyline that isn't so lame.

I have 2 theories that have been many discussed.
He was
A) Ayleid
B)what orzorn previously posted.

The explanation given on the DVD is that he's from a 'Different line of Kings." Meaning the Camoran Dynasty from Valenwood (why he looks like an Altmer is sometyhing else, though). he does have some kind of Royal blood. Also, he's a powerful wizard, so he probably has the spell to unlock it.

i doubt he could break it, i mean it is divine.

"Divine" is a matter of perspective.

sureee. certain people who dont wear a necklace help daedra kill us isnt really divine

EDIT: I mean: When the septims dont wear AoK then dagon can waltz in and start slaughtering people. nope AoK isnt divine at all[/sarcasm]

Well, by "Divine" do you mean eight ideas thrown together by Alessia to keep from needing her own people to switch to strange Nordic gods while at the same time placating her Nordic allies who want them to leave worshipping elven gods like Akatosh, or any being that is "more" than a powerful wizard or spellcaster?

Well akatosh proved his existance with martins flamin body and whatnot. and if you take KOTN then i dont think she threw em together.

I mean godly anyway

Bear in mind this ios Oblivion Lore we're beginning to talk about. there's a lot of threads on the Dragon. Virtually nobody believes it can be both Lore-accurate and akatosh.

But a quick history lesson: Allesia's rebellion worked. But the former slaves worshipped elven gods. The Nords don't like that, but her people don't want to completely switch. So she makes a patchwork of elven deities like Akatosh and Nordic ones like Kynareth, gives Akatosh a lot of Shor/Lorkhan traits and calls it a day. Remeber, just because it's beleived dosen't mean it's true. Some peopkle believe a lick of what Vivec says.

But still, godly may just be powerful. It was in Morrowind several people ask if the Aedra, while they are doubtless powerful spirits, are truly gods, claiming that the tribunal is better. We all know how that ended up, but they raise an interesting point. Maybe they are simply powerful spirits, and a strong enough spellcaster, like camoran, for instance, could undo some of their work.

The Amulet of Kings existed before the Septim empire, so don't buy too much into the thing saying that only a direct heir of Tiber Septim can wear it, okay?

It's the Amulet of Kings. Not of Emperors. The requirement to wear it is to be a King. As heir of the Camoran dynasty, and ruler of the Paradise, Mankar Camoran is a King. Therefore he can wear the Amulet. Q.E.D.

Be there a twist of fate, learn ye the spread seeds of the Septimus Grandus. Or maybe, just spread CHEESE all over the topic. No that wouldn't do.

As is Bethesda's reasoning for the dragon+dagon boom, everything is possible with CHEESE.

Perhaps, if one looked more closely, they would find that all Ayleids are Kings of Cyrod.

The PC is king of the shivering Isles, yet he is unable to wear it.

No, he's the Prince.

There's a main consensus about the Amulet of Kings being of Ayleid origin, and Mankar Camoran being of Ayleid desceent --- therefore he can wear it (That was a terrible summary, but those who don't know what I'm talking about can read in the threads that Adanorcil linked)

I however think that it is related to the bloodlines (and if you look at it that way, genetics).

I think Mankar is part of another line of the Dragonborn. This is not like the Biblical line of Leviticus (sorry to get religious here), where the firstborn sons where the only ones allowed to be priests in the temple. (And please don't debate about that, it's just a small reference)

(http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Tamriel:Third_Era)Emperor Antiochus had many wives and mistresses, which no doubt led to many legit and bastard children. There are also many other Empresses and Emperors that weren't very close to the Septim line(Katariah the wife of Mad Pelagius, Uriel IV, etc, to name a few). So all that is need to rule (and to wear the Amulet of Kings), is the blood of the Septims. This is backed up (mostly, but he also quotes "they") by Baurus, "Only a true heir of the Blood can wear it, they say."

However, it is preferred to have someone closer to the original line. After Uriel IV dies, it is quoted, "Andorak, Uriel IV's son, was disinherited by vote of Council, and a cousin more closely related to the original Septim line was proclaimed Cephorus II by the next year." I personally believe that the more pure-blooded the Emperor, the more in-tune he is with the Gods (such as Uriel VII knowing the signs of the Gods (events of Illiac Bay, Neravarine prophecies, OB crisis---Especially his dialogue at the beginning)


~TK.R

Dragonblood is a mythopoetic metaphor for one's existence as either the king or rebel archetype.

Thus, the Lorkhan or Akatosh archetype?