Why does Hoover Dam have an AA Gun?

Post » Wed Dec 02, 2009 12:32 pm

It's a civilian power plant. It's not like one gun will defend it against Chinese attack.
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Sheila Reyes
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:01 pm

Gamebryo could only support one AA gun.
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:59 am

heres a theory....they used the AA gun to shoot some of the chinese nukes before hiting us
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:16 pm

It was probably put there after the attack. It has been over 200 years after all.
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:19 pm

Was the gun already there when the NCR arrived or did they bring it with them?
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:37 am

Was the gun already there when the NCR arrived or did they bring it with them?

they dident bring it , how do i know? the pre-war billboards show the AA gun at hoover dam
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:20 am

My guess is they armed the dam during the war with the Chinese? Thats what I figured anyway.
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:15 pm

Yeah, for the war, probably.
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:32 pm

It's just for Tchaikovsky night.
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:21 pm

The AA Gun is there to protect Hoover Dam from, surprisingly enough, Aircraft.

I'm sure with the war ratching up in China (The US troops were fighting their way up the Yangtze River to Beijing at the time of the War) the US was sure China would try something.
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:08 am

I have not seen AAA gun at the dam. I have seen howitzers there. They are really not even close to the same thing in the u.s. military. Now the Germans had ground to air/ ground to ground artillery piece in WWII called the "flack 88" , but i dont think its a flack 88. U.S. AAA has around 4 barrels and shoots like 20-40mm explosive rounds. Anything bigger than that is missle time or was mounted on a ship. The weapon at the dam is a single barreled weapon that shoots at least a 155mm round. The NCR has the ability to make signs so maybe the billboard isnt prewar its hard to tell because several years in the desert would make a 4 year old sign look 200 years old and 200 year old signs would be unreadable because of the sand erosion. I think the NCR put it there to shoot at Fortification Hill. I think they put the signs up as a show of power as well. i could be wrong but i doubt it.
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:03 pm

I have not seen AAA gun at the dam. I have seen howitzers there. They are really not even close to the same thing in the u.s. military. Now the Germans had ground to air/ ground to ground artillery piece in WWII called the "flack 88" , but i dont think its a flack 88. U.S. AAA has around 4 barrels and shoots like 20-40mm explosive rounds. Anything bigger than that is missle time or was mounted on a ship. The weapon at the dam is a single barreled weapon that shoots at least a 155mm round. The NCR has the ability to make signs so maybe the billboard isnt prewar its hard to tell because several years in the desert would make a 4 year old sign look 200 years old and 200 year old signs would be unreadable because of the sand erosion. I think the NCR put it there to shoot at Fortification Hill. I think they put the signs up as a show of power as well. i could be wrong but i doubt it.



This. It's not AA. that's one big honking cannon.
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2009 4:16 am

I have not seen AAA gun at the dam. I have seen howitzers there. They are really not even close to the same thing in the u.s. military. Now the Germans had ground to air/ ground to ground artillery piece in WWII called the "flack 88" , but i dont think its a flack 88. U.S. AAA has around 4 barrels and shoots like 20-40mm explosive rounds. Anything bigger than that is missle time or was mounted on a ship. The weapon at the dam is a single barreled weapon that shoots at least a 155mm round. The NCR has the ability to make signs so maybe the billboard isnt prewar its hard to tell because several years in the desert would make a 4 year old sign look 200 years old and 200 year old signs would be unreadable because of the sand erosion. I think the NCR put it there to shoot at Fortification Hill. I think they put the signs up as a show of power as well. i could be wrong but i doubt it.


There's a quest...

Spoiler
as part of arizona killer quest you can rig that gun to shoot down the president's vertibird.


:rolleyes:
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:53 pm

That thing is way too big for an AA gun. The largest AA gun the US ever used was 120mm in caliber and had the barrel length of 23.5ft. The Hoover Dam gun looks to me more like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16%22/50_caliber_M1919_gun.
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:26 am

It's just for Tchaikovsky night.


You, sir, win a cake! :cake:
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:42 am

Whatever it looks like, it is referred to in game as an AA gun, and you can use it to shoot down aircraft.
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2009 3:51 pm

I would say that it is a AA gun, as said much like the german flak 88, also they might not have used "aa machine-guns" because a aa-gun of that size could be reporpused to stop enemy ships on the river on enemy armor approching, much like the flak 88
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2009 6:39 pm

You, sir, win a cake! :cake:


Cool, thanks.

My question about the AA gun is this -- why isn't the NCR putting resources into fixing the damned thing so they can shell Caesar's camp?
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2009 6:15 am

I would say that it is a AA gun, as said much like the german flak 88, also they might not have used "aa machine-guns" because a aa-gun of that size could be reporpused to stop enemy ships on the river on enemy armor approching, much like the flak 88

An AA gun of this size would have been poorly suited for tracking aerial targets.
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2009 4:51 pm

An AA gun of this size would have been poorly suited for tracking aerial targets.


Yes perhaps low flying fighter-dive bombers but bombers flying at 6000+ meters won't get reached by "aa-machineguns". And the higher the plane flies the slower it will apper to be moving making tracking easier
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:33 pm

There's really no question as to whether it's an AA gun or not. The game says it's an AA gun.

plus
Spoiler
you have it shoot down something in the air

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:11 pm

Yes perhaps low flying fighter-dive bombers but bombers flying at 6000+ meters won't get reached by "aa-machineguns".

True, but smaller caliber AA cannons would have done the trick. Not to mention that by the time of the Great War, the Fallout world should have had AA missiles, perhaps even AA lasers.


And the higher the plane flies the slower it will apper to be moving making tracking easier

True, sort of. And a bigger shell would give a bigger shrapnel spread area, making it more likely to hit the target.

But consider the reloading time for that monster. A single plane rarely gets sent to attack a strategic target; the reason low- to mid-caliber autocannons are used is because of their ability to reload and retarget themselves quickly enough to take on several targets in succession. That monster cannon at Hoover Dam must have each shell weight 5-7 tons at the very least; there's no conceivable way to quickly reload something like that.
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2009 5:34 am

True, but smaller caliber AA cannons would have done the trick. Not to mention that by the time of the Great War, the Fallout world should have had AA missiles, perhaps even AA lasers.



True, sort of. And a bigger shell would give a bigger shrapnel spread area, making it more likely to hit the target.

But consider the reloading time for that monster. A single plane rarely gets sent to attack a strategic target; the reason low- to mid-caliber autocannons are used is because of their ability to reload and retarget themselves quickly enough to take on several targets in succession. That monster cannon at Hoover Dam must have each shell weight 5-7 tons at the very least; there's no conceivable way to quickly reload something like that.
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I agree with you that it seems like a very uneffective aa gun espatially if it's not part of a group of guns, but it could still work as a aa gun :)
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Post » Thu Dec 03, 2009 3:27 am

Who cares?.... :confused: They probably "HAD" a reason for it....
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:45 pm

The NCR has the ability to make signs so maybe the billboard isnt prewar its hard to tell because several years in the desert would make a 4 year old sign look 200 years old and 200 year old signs would be unreadable because of the sand erosion. I think the NCR put it there to shoot at Fortification Hill. I think they put the signs up as a show of power as well. i could be wrong but i doubt it.


Then they wouldn't have added "NCR and proud!" as graffiti.
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