Why have crafting,or owning homes,or doing odd jobs?

Because people asked for these options and other games include them.

I think I love you... x'D

beth needed something to work on so they would have an excuse for not working on spears and crossbows.

really, i cant think of any other reason. it adds so very little to the game i wholly believe their time would have been better spent randomly dropping mudcrabs next to high level creeps in the creation kit.

how are you people not getting the slavery anology? you take a warrior woman for your bride and she is reduced to doing nothing but baking you pies and giving you her money for the rest of her life eternally cooped up in the house, not ever leaving unless explicitly directed by you to do so. you dont have to agree with it but its a very obvious perspective to take on medieval courtship.

i wanted to hook up with Suzana the Wicked from Windhelm, but she's not romanceable.....dem teddies and [censored]!!!! so i'm stilling looking for my bride. i might marry one of the Temple of Diabella girls cos they are some freaky broads.

but to the question of why does the game have marriage?? maybe because it's a RPG and that's the type of shyt you do in a RPG.

Oh, well I guess that makes sense. I don't have much interest in it so I haven't done it yet.

i plan to marry Onmund once im done with the main q, it makes no sense otherwise :hubbahubba:

I hope I can fit this in my signature.

srsly, i saw that comment somewhere else :wink_smile: nice try tho

Yep this is what I was trying to point out that Marriage (in Skyrim) is basically anologous to slavery.

This.

I'll just tell you why I like marriage in this game. After wandering Cyrodiil by myself for ages in Oblivion, all too often I found myself thinking, "Boy, I wish I could share this with someone." Preferably a splitscreen or online co op option. But for role-playing purposes and character creativity, I would have loved to spend some of the moments gallivanting through pine forests and resting beneath waterfalls in lagoons with someone my character could call his friend, or even wife. Now it may definitely be said that the marriage system in Skyrim is obviously not that technically intricate, its a fairly simple companion system (as I understand, I presently have not yet found the right woman myself) but the point is at least being able to say "I am a married man/woman." And having someone to share the world with and care for in a role-playing sense. If the system as it was was in Oblivion, it would've rocked my world. But this being the next generation of Elder Scrolls, its easy to have higher expectations. I am simply glad the option is there, as yet another element to this incredibly detailed game.

Now come on man, get your act together. Marriage isn't slavery: unless you're in some intense cult or culture. As long as two people have equal consent, there is no slavery at all. Even in a situation of arranged marriage it doesn't have to be slavery.... but you don't need me to tell you any of this. I hope you find your soul mate someday! :biggrin:

Your now just whitwwashing what Marriage actually is which is actually otherwise if you look at slavery and come back to look at Marriage you'll see a connection if you compare the two which is isn't really that much different....

Wat? I think you need to look up the definition of "marriage".

Also, Morrowind had slaves.

It has it for a gimmick.

No use, feminism has done a real number on this one.

You have your panties firmly lodged in your crack, OP. You just might need to march on bethesda now.

Well here is a wikipedia article I found.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_marriage



Of course I hope you know what feminism is.

Bethesda probably should've fleshed out more things to do in marriage than they did if they were going to include it. And more prospective spouses as well, theres no khajiits, no Bosmer, just one female High Elf, but like a million Nords

Oh, and marriage ain't slavery, not in this day and age at least.

Marriage but no divorce

:D

I do, it's pathetic.

Marriage could have been implemented much better, but overall it's great that it made it in Skyrim. Marriage adds more to the feel of the world, which is a good thing. Hopefully, marriage is fleshed out more in the next game, and you can actually interact more with your spouse.

There's a huge difference between Medieval Courtship and slavery.
Marriage is far from slavery as well, and im not entirely certain on how you actually can even link the two together in skyrim.

At no point before or after the marriage are you telling the person to do things, or demanding for that matter, you are actually asking the person.
Even before you get married you ask the person if that person is interested in you, the person then obviously says yes because that is how the entire conversation has been programmed if you are wearing the amulet of mara, if you have done a quest to make them your friend.

Obviously having that person then sitting at home doing "chores" or whatever those NPC now might be doing, does by no means actually relate to any form of slavery, even if you marry a follower you're still able to get them to follow you.

It's an agreement on both sides to live together for the rest of their lives, doesn't make it slavery.
If it was slavery it would be forced, and in general make the life of one of the sides unbearable to an extend where you'd most likely call it slavery.

Slavery = no freedom

marriage doesn't necessarily mean that you don't have freedom.

I married the sister of the guy in the Riverwood general store. Don't know if that had anything to do with it though because I'm pretty sure she doesn't sell anything normally, and only started selling crap when I moved her into my house. Of course she brought that dirty elf that hangs out in the store along for the ride and I have to listen to him be a little whiny [censored] about stuff, but being able to sell crap outweighs that annoyance I guess.

That was hard to understand.
But I'm not white-washing anything. If you're dirtying something that is supposed to be beautiful by looking at it from a feminist's point of view, I hate to say it like this, but you're as sad as they are. Seriously, think about what you're saying. Plenty of marriages go wrong, just as EVERYTHING in the world can. But the institution of marriage is not synonymous to slavery. Great, I'm getting into an internet argument, something I promised myself I'd never do, but I'm not going to let you talk about my parents like this without offering some input. Yeah, that's right. My mom and dad are in no bond of slavery, man. I've heard of some instances of marriage resulting in slavery, but that's a situation someone (in 99% of cases, unless your Muslim or something) voluntarily put themselves into, and if you live in the US, can get yourself out of just as easily. I really hope you get this ignorant, sad idea out of your head. Abolishment of marriage will never happen, but just the idea that someone would want to inhibit that expression of true love is really depressing.