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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 2:30 pm


1. Nope. They and I are very different in our views on Bethesda and Fallout 3.
2. That's exaggerating.
3. So you want me to become an alcoholic? :(

1. It isn't just FO3. This was a movie thread.
2. Is a joke, but rings of truth.
3. One day can semi quote Shakespeare...

And the next: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uepFO4psgKE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 3:53 pm

1. It isn't just FO3. This was a movie thread.
2. Is a joke, but rings of truth.
3. One day can semi quote Shakespeare...

And the next: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uepFO4psgKE&feature=youtube_gdata_player
1. Then why am I becoming one with them exactly?
2. No, it doesn't, at all.
3. What the hell is a "Shakespear"?

And no youtube for me.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 9:42 am

i would probably make quite a good movie or series, as long is it does not feature one of any game's protagonists or main quests. ever. however sevral more "rules" would need to be respected to ensure the film/ series does not end up becoming another horrible "game movie" or even worse making no sense whatsoever.

- no "rambo" main character, if any rule is to be respected it is this one, i don't want to see the main character take on 40 raiders, then the whole of cesar's legion and NCR singlehandedly.

- the BoS, enclave, "super cool robots" (like sentry bots, for example), super mutants and ghouls should appear only occasionnally, and they should NEVER be the main focus of the story. EVER.

- no breaking canon, for whatever reason.

- never introduce a powerfull faction right at the end. if the faction is powerfull it should be well known. no secret society bullcrap. ever.

- no "final boss endings", if an important member of an opposing faction is killed it should not be right at the end of the movie (by that i mean typical "kill the bad guy => roll credits" endings), but rather close to half way through, so we get to see the aftermath such as his/her faction sinking into chaos, or dividing up into multiple sub-factions

- finally, the story should focus more on the "universe" and interactions between it's inhabitants rather than the protagonist. infact the protagonist should serve mainly as the narrator, a survivor through who's eyes we see the rich fallout universe, all major events should be independant from him/ his actions (never, ever should the protagonist induce major events, and try to "change the world".). the best way to describe this is: "make the protagonist "passive" rather than "active", all actions should happen to him, not happen because of him, in a post-appocalyptic wasteland you are a survivor, not an action hero, so for obvious reasons you will identify better with another survivor in that kind of situation making the film more immersive."
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 3:35 pm


1. Then why am I becoming one with them exactly?
2. No, it doesn't, at all.
3. What the hell is a "Shakespear"?

And no youtube for me.

Are you frigging serious?

The UTUBE vid was from Animal House. My advice to you is to begin drinking heavily.

And if you do not know who Willy is you need to go back to school. And as I said, joke on your complaining. Stan.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 10:31 am

1. Are you frigging serious?

2. The UTUBE vid was from Animal House. My advice to you is to begin drinking heavily.

3. And if you do not know who Willy is you need to go back to school.

4. And as I said, joke on your complaining. Stan.
1. Why wouldn't I be?

2. I don't want to become an alcoholic though and I doubt becoming one would help my situation, that is, if there "was" a situation I needed help with in the first place.

3. I don't absorb useless information that has no value to me. Shakesphere is some dead writer, good works or not, I ain't interested in him nor his works, so the information about who he is hasn't been relavent to me until I looked it up just now, and even now I don't see any reason why I should learn any more about him. He was a writer, he's dead, the end.

4. My name is Daniel, not Stan. And the two of us are nothing alike.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 4:40 pm


1. Why wouldn't I be?

2. I don't want to become an alcoholic though and I doubt becoming one would help my situation, that is, if there "was" a situation I needed help with in the first place.

3. I don't absorb useless information that has no value to me. Shakesphere is some dead writer, good works or not, I ain't interested in him nor his works, so the information about who he is hasn't been relavent to me until I looked it up just now, and even now I don't see any reason why I should learn any more about him. He was a writer, he's dead, the end.

4. My name is Daniel, not Stan. And the two of us are nothing alike.

You should. If you read more dead writers, you may be able to sharpen up that sense of humor you are lacking. Obviously Papafern is not the only one with a broken scanning device. Swoosh. Your head, over.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 1:11 pm

- no "final boss endings", if an important member of an opposing faction is killed it should not be right at the end of the movie (by that i mean typical "kill the bad guy => roll credits" endings), but rather close to half way through, so we get to see the aftermath such as his/her faction sinking into chaos, or dividing up into multiple sub-factions.

I don't think we can stop his from happening. That kind of ending is what the majority wants.
I agree with the rest of your points though.


@Gab

I can't believe that you did not know who shakespeare was, until now. You are kidding, right?
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 1:00 pm

1. You should. If you read more dead writers, you may be able to sharpen up that sense of humor you are lacking. 2. Obviously Papafern is not the only one with a broken scanning device. Swoosh. Your head, over.
1. I do have a sense of humor.
2. I wasn't using my sarcasm scanner, I was using my insult scanner, and I feel that your attitude has been very insulting. Saying I have no sense of humor, that I should become an alcoholic, mispronouncing my name with a cartoon character and saying I'm comparable to said cartoon character in an episode where the character thinks everything is literally crap.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 1:21 am



@Gab

I can't believe that you did not know who shakespeare was, until now. You are kidding, right?

He transformed from "sounds like crap Stan" to "new age hipster, goth/emo dead dead who cares dead Stan" in front of our very eyes!

Btw Gab, that a joke, too.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 3:58 pm

I don't think we can stop his from happening. That kind of ending is what the majority wants.

Is that so? Why?

I don't see it being the case, it's the common practice that is "known" to work, but I don't think it is held as special requirement or want. And all in all, it depends on what kind of and in what manner the story is presented.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 10:34 am

Btw Gab, that a joke, too.
Uh-huh..
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 5:13 am


1. I do have a sense of humor.
2. I wasn't using my sarcasm scanner, I was using my insult scanner, and I feel that your attitude has been very insulting. Saying I have no sense of humor, that I should become an alcoholic, mispronouncing my name with a cartoon character and saying I'm comparable to said cartoon character in an episode where the character thinks everything is literally crap.

If you watched Animal House, or the you tube video, you would see where the drinking comment came from. But, you have not, so it all went over your head. Swoosh. The fact I have to spell this all out.. nevermind. Every single comment, every. Single. One. Was a joke. Every. One.

Don't take things so personal there. Sheesh.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 1:54 am

Don't take things so personal there. Sheesh.
Shall we go back to the thread discussion now?

I don't see how a Fallout movie could be made good because games work differently than films.
From what I've seen in films, they try to cram from 10 hours or more of story, characters, events and lore into 1.5 hours.
And it just doesn't work, they can't pace the story in a good way and have to rush everything so that they can make room for the next important thing.
Now, if they made a film where it's like All Roads, no unnecessary fanservice, then I'd be fine with it.
No ghoul co-star, no super mutants, no power armor, no FEV or secret agenda or take over the world storyline.
Simply a gang of people traversing across the wastes for a job.
If a film was made like All Roads, I'd be okay with it.
But since it's probably going to stuff as much Fallout into it as possible it will just turn into a mess of fanservice, trying to force every iconic thing into 1.5 hours.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 11:51 am

Which is why it all works best as a ongoing TV show. They could make a movie to compliment the TV show, like X-Files, but a TV show works best.

I highly suggest, if people have not seen, to rent the series Deadwood and give it a watch. It is a western, but in many ways, FO is a post-apoc western with lasers.

I could see a FO setting show working in similar ways to that show, just with more adventuring, as the entire show takes place in Deadwood, when FO would not.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 2:08 pm

Which is why it all works best as a ongoing TV show. They could make a movie to compliment the TV show, like X-Files, but a TV show works best.
Definitely.
But I have to say that they should plan the series ahead.
Some tv-shows go on way too long and always come up with some new bullcrap to keep it going.
So I'd prefer it if they decided beforehand that it should run for 2 or 3 seasons, then call it quits.
And of course wrap the series up by that final episode.
A movie could be made afterwards for a loose end.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 7:15 am

Ah dude, come on, you know me, I whine at anything new, why would I ever like a game-to-movie? :laugh:
I don't know Jack [censored], I've came here and got confused again, that's twice now :ahhh:






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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 12:16 pm

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Trust, me, even ninja's can't avoid the cluster[censored] that is my mind, and once I let it out, you're trapped. :D

Anyway, If Obsidian wanted to license a film (if they owned the IP) then I would be excited really.
Cause they'd be out to make a good film for the fans.
But Bethesda... I don't really trust them.
They're very "We need to make profit!", so I wouldn't trust their decisions towards the movie business.
Especially since I don't trust them in the game business.

I'm not saying it would be instant crap.
But I don't trust Bethesda, and it's hard to give blind faith towards something you don't trust.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 12:55 am

Trust, me, even ninja's can't avoid the cluster[censored] that is my mind, and once I let it out, you're trapped. :biggrin:

Anyway, If Obsidian wanted to license a film (if they owned the IP) then I would be excited really.
Cause they'd be out to make a good film for the fans.
But Bethesda... I don't really trust them.
They're very "We need to make profit!", so I wouldn't trust their decisions towards the movie business.
Especially since I don't trust them in the game business.

I'm not saying it would be instant crap.
But I don't trust Bethesda, and it's hard to give blind faith towards something you don't trust.

I can agree with the reasoning... sort of.. but all media publishing companies... are in it for the money..
Anyone making a FO movie would buy the license for profit only... in the real world that would mean blockbuster...
They would nerf a lot of the more "difficult" themes and references to drugs etc.. and in all likelihood it would become a tame sci-fi action-flick rated PG13... even if Obsidian licensed it.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 4:45 am

Well that's the main problem, with Bethesda behind it we would probably get a Michael Bay like movie rather than a Steven Spielberg or James Cameron like movie
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 6:53 am

Well that's the main problem, with Bethesda behind it we would probably get a Michael Bay like movie rather than a Steven Spielberg or James Cameron like movie
Peoples opinion of Bay has been ruined by what he has done recently and overusing annoying stuff he did in his older movies (close ups, millitary glory shots, slo-mo)
But the guy also made The Rock, yes it was a simple action movie, but a very well made one.. (the first Bad Boys was also not that bad)
Spielberg and Cameron both would nerf the stuff we like about FO as well..
In a fantasy world someone like Scorcese, Tarantino, Rodriguez or heck even a Lars von Trier making a FO movie could work... but it will not happen.
Like I stated before and agreed on in this thread.. the only way I feel a translation of FO into hollywood would be like a (cable) TV series.. It can be edgy.., it can be challenging etc..
(but even then we would always be disappointed.. No one can copy how someone experiences a game or include all the material someone loves)
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 1:53 am

yeah, and I don't even want to think about it anymore because it is really rather pointless to do so since either a: it won't happen or b: it will be disappointing at the least.

just on Bay, he hasn't done anything that would even come close to similar to a Fallout movie, and the Rock and Bad Boys were decent action movies at best, and that was long in the past.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 11:52 am

A bit of a sidetrack here, but just the fact that we can have this discussion about how the game can translate into other media proves it is art form. The experience is different enough from literature and film to make it a unique experience. If people can not see that... they probably work for Fox news.

EDIT: I could really see a movie about Fallout done by Scorsesse (sp?). A lot of his work has been in the same vein of exploring human conflict in the untamed regions of urban America. I think it would be a good challenge for him to explore it in a setting like Fallout.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 10:48 am

Uwe Boll might get his hands on it. That's the only reason one needs to be against the idea of a Fallout movie.
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 7:29 am

It would be like trying to make a movie out of a choose your own adventure book. Which would be counter-intuitive, no?

I would much rather a new Fallout game.


actually did you ever watch finnal destanation 3 on dvd they had a regular version of the movie and then they had a choose your own adventur type version of it and it worked faily well. like the part were the truck crashes in to the car and the fan comes out and hits the guy in the head and cuts his head into peaces. in the choose you own adventur part you could choose for him to live or die. so in the end it could work. would i want them to do it? no


but it can work tho
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Post » Fri May 04, 2012 4:51 am

Is Mad Max not enough?
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