Why is My Ebony Armor rated lower than my Dwarven? : V

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:10 am

My Dwarven armor is rated at 693 (+90 with shield). This was made using armor/helmet/ring/necklace each with 25% smithing.

Doing the exact same thing, my ebony armor comes to 635 (+85). What gives?

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:50 am

do i need to wear my ebony armor and enchant them in order to maximize the armor rating? although this doesnt make any sense

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:54 pm

Did you wear the +smithing gear when improving the ebony armor?

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:59 pm

Or did you make the dwarven yourself. Any item you make yourself will turn out better then what you find.

Just reread your post, looks like you made both yourself. Are you sure you were wearing your smithing clothes. Do you have the ancient knowlege active effect?

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:04 pm

Spoiler

There is an item that boosts the power of dwemer items by around 25%. It's possible you got that at some point.

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:55 am

Did you do the quest that From-Deepest-Fathoms gave you to go into a Dwemer ruin?

It increases the power of Dwarven Armor by a LOT.

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:26 pm

Spoiler

There is an item that boosts the power of dwemer items by around 25%. It's possible you got that at some point.

is this an item i wear? or a permanent thing?

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:38 am

also, i did not do the from-deepest-fathoms................

even while wearing all 4 +25% smithing items, i cannot upgrade the ebony armor any more

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:24 am

Try saving your game, and craft a new set of dwarven armor.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:35 pm

ok, so i went to the work bench wearing all 4 smithing upgrades, and it shows the following

for dwarf:
armor - 288, boots - 129, gauntlets - 129, helmet - 147 = 693 (which is correct)

for ebony:
armor - 321, boots - 141, gauntlets - 141, helmet - 159 = 762 (what it should be)

instead it shows as ebony (when equipped) as 268-118-118-137

its weird, when i wear my dwarf armor, and i mouse over the ebony armor it shows the correct numbers, but when worn it shows the lower numbers........some weird glitch?

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 9:58 pm

hmmmmmm

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:21 am

Try saving your game, and craft a new set of dwarven armor.

why would i craft a new set of dwarven armor? its the ebony thats rated lower

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 9:14 am

even when i place the ebony armor on the ground it has a rating of 321, but when i wear it it drops (even with wearing all matching armor)

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:38 am

so i'm losing 50%...............maybe theres a glitch with the 25% all heavy and 25% matching not kicking in?

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:54 am

Are you sure you're wearing your shield equipped with the ebony -.-?

Edit: nvm

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 6:34 am

why would i craft a new set of dwarven armor? its the ebony thats rated lower

To see whether it is your dwarven armor that is bugged to have more armor.

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:07 am

i am equipping shield.......................ok now its getting weird........

i created a new set of dwarf armor, and while wearing the old dwarf armor, the rating went down to 621 (the one that was previously 693)

even weirder, is that if i add up all the ratings, it still adds up to 693, but the rating shows 621

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:17 pm

lol and the saga continues...........i dropped all the armor, everything, equipped the original armor, and its back to 693................

it seems that the current armor is getting a boost (or new armor is not adding correctly)

i think its the latter, because when I make new armor, the higher rating shows, but when i wear it (as a set) a lower number appears

i've done this with both dwarf and ebony armor. it SHOWS the higher number, but the total does not add up

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 5:24 am

Do you have a sickness that is dropping armor rating?

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:41 am

Or did you make the dwarven yourself. Any item you make yourself will turn out better then what you find.

Just reread your post, looks like you made both yourself. Are you sure you were wearing your smithing clothes. Do you have the ancient knowlege active effect?

No, new armors you create are not better than armor you buy or find. Only through the workbench can you improve armors, and only through the grindstone can you improve weapons. I just tested, a steel plate armor I added via command line console has the same armor rating as one I craft.

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:00 am

i believe it has to do with the perks on heavy armor

while wearing the higher rated dwarf armor, when i look at the ebony armor on the floor it shows 321. when i un equip any of the dwarf armor (thus not making it a set and not receiving the 2x25% bonus for matching heavy armor and all heavy armor), and i look at the ebony armor on the ground again, it shows as 214 (or a 50% loss)

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 4:04 am

Pretty sure he did the companion quests like most people do, even none warriors, but especially warriors.
And as such: Disease is not really a problem.

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 11:54 am

To me the whole "overall armor" value is pretty much broken.
I had some plated steel armor with quality "Superior". It showed 379 of overall armor rating.
I made exactely the same armor again with quality "Epic" and exactly the same enchantments after
I raised my level in smithing. While all individual values of the several pieces where higher, the
overall armor rating was still 379. Pretty weird.

» Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:15 am

To me the whole "overall armor" value is pretty much broken.
I had some plated steel armor with quality "Superior". It showed 379 of overall armor rating.
I made exactely the same armor again with quality "Epic" and exactly the same enchantments after
I raised my level in smithing. While all individual values of the several pieces where higher, the
overall armor rating was still 379. Pretty weird.

Your armor skill adds in here too, there appears to be some cuts where you get or dont get bonuses.
My first daedric weapon created was a daedric mace. I then realized it had exactly the same damage as an Ebony mace.
I switched and made a sword. Now the Sword had actually +2 damage compared to the ebony sword.
Axes was also the same, even when upgraded.

However, when you start to have 75-80+ in the skill, the better armor type starts to shoot forward further, as the lower one have more or less peaked.

» Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:33 pm

nope, no active disease...........although something weird i noticed

under magic (the left sector) and under active

it shows silver ring 25% 4 times. i can manipulate this to say silver necklace 4 times as well. this is because i'm using a silver ring, silver necklace, and helmet and armor, each with 25% smithing. something here is definitely glitched. under active effects it seems to show random stuff. either silver ring, or necklace, gloves, or armor