Now, after I started here. I have seen people here who just LOVE the Enclave.

For those people, please. Tell me the good thing about Enclave, and why you love it.

The reason why I'm asking is because I just don't see any good things about the Enclave.

p.s. please not say ''BECAUSE FOR AMERICA!''. That's just sooo pathetic.

These are the main reasons I support the Enclave:

1. Whats in a name? Personally their title "The Enclave" brillantly sums up something I love about them. The fact that they are indeed an enclave, in the defintion of the word, which means that they are a isolated group in the midst of a "whole lotta other crap" (thats the technical term for the wasteland btw). The fact that they are isolationist is one thing that drew me to them. Their strategy, in my view, is amazing. They sit back and work on building their strength while waiting for the opportune moment to strike when everyone else is fighting and weakening each other. Brillant.

2. Technology and Military Power: They are without a doubt the most advanced faction in the game universe. Their ability to develop and create new weapons, defenses, robots, and even the only aircraft in the world (the Verti-birds) makes me feel like I'm supporting a faction that knows what its doing in terms of actually being able to rebuild the ruined wastes. While others sit in squalor and twiddle their thumbs like morons (looking at you BoS), the Enclave has tech that they could never even come close to matching.

Their military strength is also something that is a sight to behold. As I said before, they are the only faction with the ability to have air-superiority and advanced logistics and mobility. Lets face it, had Lyon's or the Chosen one not been aided by bad writing, there is no real way that either of them would have succeeded in defeating the Enclave. (orbital strike targeting the citadel). Their advanced techonolgy also factors into their strength as a military. They are the sole (I would guess besides any pre-war ones) source of plasma rifles and plasma based weaponry in the wasteland. Maybe not necessarily in the west (plasma in Fallout 1), but the East for certain. They are able to arm even the lowest ranked of their soldiers with a least a laser rifle and Advanced Power Armor and their strongest with Hellfire armor and an incinerator. Not even the high and mighty Brotherhood that everyone seems to like so much can match this, not even by a long shot. I also don't see their "lack of numbers" as a weakness. Indeed in some ways I see it as a strength.

3. Stars and Stipes Forever: They are the United States of America. The Enclave of the United States of America is not just a fancy title which they made up. I like how the Enclave are also related to COG (Continuty of Government) plans and how they retain control over pre-war bases and bunkers (Raven Rock and Adams AFB for example).

4. Destroy, Rebuild, and Renew: Contrary to what alot of people seem to think. The Enclave aren't in the buisness of genocide for the fun of it. They are restoring the old world by removing what they see as a grave threat to the future of the human race, mutants (and are they wrong in this?) They just truly feel that the "ends justify the means" in this case.

Here's my stock answer:

About your fourth point, you say they try to protect the human race from Mutants. Yet they believe anybody not Enclave is a Mutant. You support this?

Okay, but how was the enclave created? How are they themselves not mutated? were they vault dwellers who had access to pre-war thech and information? What vault did they come from then?

Okay, but how was the enclave created?

How are they themselves not mutated?

were they vault dwellers who had access to pre-war thech and information?

What vault did they come from then?

I have come to terms with why they are there but they just seemed pathetic to me.

The more I read this the more it seems to me that the Enclave is the Nazi party with a new name and flag. Sure you can say they thought their idea was good, but I'm pretty sure Hitler thought his idea was good and so were Nazi supporters. The Nazi's didn't start as extremly genocidal either, even with Jews as they just hurt their positions first then game the killing. They are an advanced military with new weapons and such, same with the Nazi's more with their secret weapons or their V2 rockets. The Enclave is trying to kill all people who they believe shouldn't be in America that hurt it, same with the Nazi's.

I may think of more later, but now I don't feel like it.

Yeah because nowhere in the history of mankind has any country commited racial genocide, wanted to survive and at the same time been well equipped in comparison; it's a comparison based only on circumstances as opposed to any real ideological motivation. The Enclave is democratic, trying to do good for all mankind and is well equipped, [censored] the UN is like the Enclave! Hitler wanted German supremacy, the Enclave genuinly thinks that it is the only option to save the human race.

Oh and your wrong about the America part, as indeed are all of those who seem to think that the Enclave is only devoted to America:

President Richardson - creator of the Project
{246}{prs43a}{No, no. That's humanity's last, best, hope. That's what we've been working towards all these years.}
{254}{prs46b}{Some of the members of your tribe are showing some extremely interesting changes. If the danger to true humanity weren't so great I would think about studying them. But that's not to be.}
{262}{prs49}{Never. Part of the president's job is to make the tough decisions. A lot of near-humans will sacrifice their lives for the return of humanity. Humans will prevail.}
{277}{prs56}{You might find that tougher than you think. If you do, I'll go to my reward knowing that I died a patriot and a servant of humanity.}

I'm sorry I offended you, but I think it has been pointed out that everyone has their own opinions so no need to come at me like that. Anyways with racial genocide Nazi's are definately the first to come to mind.