http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2016/01/18/why-fallout-4-will-never-be-the-new-skyrim/?utm_campaign=yahootix&partner=yahootix#2715e4857a0b3f1cc2834ecf

Forbes online gave one interesting view as to why many people believe Fallout 4 is flawed when compared to Skyrim. Mrmatty plays even made a video that asked "Why so many people are returning to Skyrim?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7u2QRVG2JI, and I can see one of the reasons people return to Skyrim is listed in Forbes and I found myself agreeing wholeheartedly, and it was reason 2 on his list that made me shake my head in agreeing with his opinion. Now I am not saying F4 is a bad game, not in the least. But one has to see that there was a lot missing and really it tried to be like other games and not really doing many things original. With the cover based combat( any CoD or Battlefield), dialog wheel( Dragon age, Mass Effect), even the romance system( failed compared to mass and dragon and the Witcher), I mean if your going to copy others, go all the way and set the bar even higher.

Now I am not doing this to put down Bethesda, not in the least. I believe game companies need feedback like this( even tho they may have heard it a thousand times) and has to be echoed for future DLC and games. As I have said you set the bar that others liked and set the trend, so why not continue and keep it going? Then when people say "did you see that thing in Elder Scrolls 6? it was awesome! " and other game companies curse you for it, you know you did good.

Well, that was a personal opinion piece. And that can be said of any two games, where you like them both, but one has more appeal, so that is the one you play more. Some people do not like fantasy settings, some do.

Yeh..and Mass Effect won't be Dragon Age either.


Different games, different worlds, different stuff.....just the way it should be.

I'm sure after finishing Fallout 3, lots of fantasy fans went back to Oblivion as well.

The World of Fallout 4 is very beautiful, there is almost non Place looking the same or so.

Yes you cant clean the Floor and whatever in Fallout but the Settlement System is an great Idea and just needs some Improvements. Some Mods already took care of it but i hope Bethesda is doing something like that too, you know some official Ways and not just the Community.

About the Quests, yes, i dont need even those Pics to get a feeling of an empty World here. I dont like it. Evil Bethesda

Read the article again. He wasn't saying anything was flawed. He was noting the differences between the games. Some are pretty obvious, like character differences. One is a fantasy game with elves, fairies and unicorns and the other is a man's game. So of course there are going to be differences and I agree there are different combat options when one game has men in dresses casting sparkly magic and another has explosions and guts. lol.. I can't keep this going. Just an example on how someone can skew someone else's opinion piece. The dude was just listing differences then giving his opinion on why they aren't the same - like it wasn't obvious. One is Fantasy the other is Post Apocalyptic. The Fantasy genre is simply more popular. It's a no-brainer.

Skyrim is always going to win purely for the fact, you can roleplay however you want. FO4 forces you to roleplay how it wants.

I especially loved the part with the two images they're using as a comparison. Grabbing a screenshot of a user made daedric armor texture, on max settings, with other tweaks, to a basic vanilla screenshot of the first power armor you get, on what appears to be lower settings. It's clear where they're leaning with this article.

I'll say it again...the comparison of FO4 and Skyrim really makes no sense...whether you're a fan of both, or of one or the other, they are still too different to be compared..also the core fanbase of each is probably not going to be equal either, and Im certain Bethesda is aware of that...I'll go out on a limb and suggest that there is a wider fanbase for fantasy type games vs. sci-fi post-op (realistic) games...therefore why would Bethesda try putting FO4 above Skyrim? (to a certain degree I suppose they should but..) They are most likely trying to make it better than FO3 (IMO they succeeded)..and Skyrim above Oblivion (again IMO success)...

What exactly does "the new Skyrim" even mean?

I somehow ended up with 3 copies of the game, and have about 20 hours between the three. :/

Fallout 4 will get thousands from me.

In this respect I guess I should be glad F4 will never be the new Skyrim. ?

That's what has me already shifting my focus from Fallout 4 to XCom 2. Replayability.

Ofcourse not the Fallout series will never match up to the fun that the Elder Scrolls series provides as far as I'm concerned.


That said it might already be "the new Skyrim in terms of how well it is selling. Evidently it broke some kind of day one sale record, I think on Steam.

I consider Skyrim & Fallout to be equally set in a fantasy world... Let's not kid ourselves here.


Fallouts just a slightly more "modern" fantasy setting.


That said, I do understand your point, but you know... technicalities

You know what? People said the same things about Oblivion back in the days, Morrowind was so much better blah blah. And when Morrowind was released it was considered not to be as good as Daggerfall. Oblivion was considered to be a better game by it's fans compared to Fallout 3. FNV is the exception to this. And when Skyrim was released, you know what one of the most common criticism shortly after it's release were? The magic just faded away after a month and you did not really have that much to do in the world, radiant quests did not count. The game was buggy. Etc.

And now the cycle repeats itself. Sigh...

Also comparing a fully modded Skyrim with years of modding to Fallout were the modding community has just started is unfair. You compare the base game to base game.

I'm just hoping that the next Elder Scrolls doesn't have a voiced player character and takes place in a more interesting or just foreign area.


Skyrim and Oblivion were both great games but I'd love to see one set in something like Valenwood, Elswyer, Morrowind, Summerset Isles...just not Hammerfell or Daggerfall unless they're going to do a lot to make them unique and set them apart from other human high fantasy areas.

You mean I can roleplay as a character who isn't a complete moron and who isn't weak willed enough to walk to his execution just because some stuck-up Imperial [censored] condemned me for no reason at all in Skyrim?

Personal opinions about a game vs another game, mostly by aesthetics (which I don't care much for, but view it as a bonus)

I have about 36 minutes in Skyrim, lol. That's right. Got it as a gift, but never got past the lousy UI and buggy behaviour due to high fps. I know there are mods for it, but if Bethesda after all this time can't be bothered fixing their game so it at least is playable, I can't be bothered either, so no DLC's for me regarding Skyrim You listen Bethesda?! Care about your games! Point being tho, I can't really compare my experience of the games vs each other, and frankly, one shouldn't compare them, as they are very different settings.

I wouldn't compare Oblivion (which I have plaed, lol) vs FO3 either. It is a futile exercise in my view.

I have a hard time replaying Skyrim these days. I end up just downloading a bunch of mods, start a new character and get bored after a bit. Skyrim feels just as much as the "same old" as Fallout 4 does if you play it enough.

The one difference I did notice is how I felt that "same old" faster in Fallout 4. And when I mean faster I mean after 200 hours opposed to 400 in skyrim. Both of those numbers are incredible and are nothing to be ashamed of... well maybe I should be ashamed for playing that much.

Morrowind on the other hand... I just keep coming back to it!

One of the things i have seen with regards to the perceived lack of choice in FO4 is that if the choice isn't handed to the player in the form of a dialogue option then it doesn't exist. This is can be encapsulated by this idea you can't be evil in FO4 yet it is utterly false.

You can go to most farms in the wasteland and kill the farmers, then take over the farm for yourself. Sounds pretty evil to me. Not all your choices in FO4 come in the form of a dialogue choice. Simple actions you take with your character will shape the story. Three out of 4 factions can be devastated before the main quest line engages the player down making a faction choice. Go to the boston airport, the Railroad HQ or the institute and start killing people. Poof you just made a choice.

Gamers talk a lot about how they hate hand holding but so often if the game doesn't hold their hand they seem oblivious to what their actual choices are.

While i agree that Skyrim is a better game than FO4 I will say that FO4 does a lot better job at storytelling than Skyrim. Bethesda has improved their development tool box which tells me that the future looks bright for both franchises.

To be fair doesn't Fallout 4 suffer from buggy behaviour if you go over 60fps as well?

I dunno. Selling

into slavery is honestly more evil than anything you could do in any TES game as far as I can recall...

I play on a 144Hz monitor, and with V-sync on, I cap at ? that (72 fps) and no alarming buggy behaviour as such. I have had a single incident where I killed a raider, and he flew mile-high into the sky, lol And another where Dogmeat somehow nicked a car, and it exploded hehe, lousy mutt Other than those two, none in 300 hours

But thats meaningless. You can kill them over and over again and no one will notice it. So you just kill some AI Clones without getting any Trouble. Evil? This is boring and makes no sense.Just Bullet waste

Well, I'm glad someone appreciated my silliness