one of my biggest complaints with TPS is the camera angling like if your against a wall (and with Brink being a game with tons of hallways and small areas it'd be worse) it gets way to close and zooms in on your shoulder and everything can't see anything at all.
this makes a shooter like Brink really annoying if it had a TPS style so FPS is the only thing that makes sense with the parkour and everything ,least that's my opinion.

Kinda hard knowing when you're gonna get molested in Gears of War from behind

*boof*

.. chainsawed

I honestly think that the only game that really did a TPS well was the Socom: US Navy SEALs series for the PS2. I had many hours of fun as did my brother playing it offline as well as online. However I did enjoy the TPS mode from Modern Warfare 2.

As for Gears.. not so much. I feel Brink would be better off being just a FPS; however, it would be kind of neat to see what would happen if it played like Socom.

I don't know of this game you speak of but. i thought that GoW did a pretty good job. but yes like many of you have said it is pointless making a FPS and then turning it into a TPS. I mean really that's like Cutting your noes off to spite your face.

Back on OP's topic, SD pretty much wanted us to make the Brink world our own world when playing. All the customization with your avatar and weapon... it seems more logical to make the game more personal and immersive still by putting it in a FPS format. TPS kinda distances you from your character, rather than putting you in their boots... or rather, your own boots.

You do have a pretty good point with that. This is, after all, supposed to be your hero, and it's hard to connect if you're not actually experiencing things from their (or your, I guess) viewpoint.

Tbh, I don't think it would work with the setting of Brink. Close quarters + TPS would slow down the gameplay and would result in a slower, more strategic oriented gameplay. This would also increase the power of defending and would require rebalancing maps.

GoW and Uncharted work in TP because you use a lot of cover. Brink has more motion while shooting, which lends itself more to FPS viewpoints.

Sense of Perspective will give a 3rd person viewpoint when you need it most- looking out for a backstabber while on an objective.

Third person is a cool thing to have...but imo I don't think it fits Brink. TPS is more for aesthetics more than game play.

Yes they should.

It's an FPS because Splash Damage "just want to make the games that we (as in the guys at Splammage) play" as Paul Wedgwood has said so many, many times. They play fast paced multiplayer FPS's

Sure, but let someone else make that game. Brink's goal is to revolutionize the FPS genre with this system, and who can argue that a FPS without this feature is better than one with. It's a great addition to the genre, which will force all the other developers to follow suit.

I don't get why people hate 3rd-person in shooters so much ...


Parkour is not a core-showoff-element like in Mirror's Edge. It's more of an enhanced movement technique, like other games (Call of Duty for instance) tried to create by allowing players to vault over or onto objectives.


I would like to see this as well. Just a server-side option.


Call of Duty and All Points Bulletin prove you wrong.

The biggest balance-issue of Third-Person is, when you can look around corners without making your character visible. This could be easily fixed by a fog-of-war esque system, but apparently developers don't think that far.

And there could always be a compromise. How about a second person view like what was used in Dead Space? I could make several complaints about that game, but i never felt like the camera angle was an issue, and it let you see the character at all times.

The only unique problem I could see is that in a multiplayer FPS, it leaves you with a sizable blind-spot. Could be solved with an off center cross-hair, but then you lose true ADS, and it might be somewhat awkward for new players to get used to.

You still have a bit of an issue with looking around corners, but Rev already suggested one solution to that.

Third person cameras get stuck on things or give you the absolute wrong view when back to a wall
Brink is ALL about not getting caught on things

Excellent point!
Third person is a nice option, but I think it's best left to a game dedicated to being a parkour simulator, rather than a shooter.

yeah, funny how reality can pop up and solve things

Aiming is much more precise in first person so if they included a third person option players using it would either be at a noticeable disadvantage or they'd need to be given generous auto-aim which would be extremely difficult to balance and keep fair.

I do understand that if you prefer one mode over another it can be a drag to not have the option, I particularly dislike third person over the shoulder and while I get used to it in some games (Vampire: Bloodlines) I can't in others (Mass Effect) and it does tarnish the experience. However as others have mentioned giving players the option to use either really works better in more open environments and with slower gameplay, and neither of which describe Brink.

Feh, every time I see APB I get more jealous of the people with PCs and know that G1 will never port it for Mac

I think crazy Parkour moves look ten times better from a 1st person view

Future Brink handheld ports: TPS

Just a guess.

no TPS in Brink, see post #39 for why

Exactly, it sort of helps to immerse you into the game. That was part of what made Mirror's Edge good (though the rest of the game killed itself) and I think that's what will help Brink.

I'm just talking hypothetically. You know how they change things up a bit when they do mini-versions of big name titles on handhelds. Probably be something more like Prince of Persia with auto-aim and single player only.

Don't be too hard, but seriously... I see it in AC, but not here... at all. If your using guns, its FPS. If you use swords, it's TPS

I don't think I've ever played a TPS game where the camera gets stuck on geometry. It just zooms in closer over the head when there's an obstacle behind you, and the character becomes opaque.