The institute can create a whole human with a simply machine but there isn't any way to just modify the appearance of the ghouls to turn them in humans again?

I think Hancock could be a more interesting character if his personal mission were to turn him in human again, and this would allow you to romance him, like Curie.

The fact that you can romance and have six with a Ghoul is simply disgusting.

I would assume its the radiation that basically saturate there flesh and putting them in there constant balance of rotting/regenerating, I would assume any process to "humanize" a ghoul would just rot off after some time.

I don't think the Institute has much interest in curing ghouls. I'm not sure that the ghoul condition is something that could even be reversed. The Institute can produce synths, but that has very little to do with curing a condition as advanced as being a ghoul.

It's like saying "we can put people on the Moon but we haven't cured cancer yet. Get with it science!" Landing on the Moon and curing cancer have almost nothing to do with one another. There's definitely some overlap in technology, but that only goes so far.

Ghouls have gone through a very complex process to become the way they are, you can't exactly just eliminate and reverse the effects of radiation, and Feral Ghouls in particular have had their brains rotted by extreme amounts of radiation, can you un-rot something? No.

We can create human, animals, clonation, teleportation, but we can't make a ghoul human?

Nope, like someone correctly pointed out, you cant un-rot something.

The Ghouls don't just LOOK different, they have mutated beyond saving. You'd need to change more than just their appearance.

Well, they maybe they can be saved... with help of FEV, which Institute already uses to create Gen3 Synths. But I don't think anybody wants to become Institute's research subject and risk becoming something even more monstrous.

In real world, but in real world we can't teleport, create humans with machines, etc.

They can simply kidnap some ghoul.

You're saying it as if the Institute gives them a choice.

More like the Institute has no reason to help ghouls, left alone creating unethical experiment on them.

Creating a human or animal from scratch is a very fundamentally different process than curing a disease. Teleportation has literally nothing at all to do with curing disease in even the remotest sense.

Why would the Institute have spent time trying to come up with a cure for ghouls? What reason would they have for wanting to do so? The Institute has finite resources and a finite number of people. They can't research everything at once.

To use another example, this is like saying "why are we wasting time studying particle physics instead of curing cancer?"

Answer - Because those things have very little to do with one another. Someone that studies particle physics likely doesn't have any ambition to study cancer. Similarly, the people designing and building synths wouldn't have had the resources to spare to try and cure the ghoul condition. And this is all rather beside the point, because you can't really 'unrot' something.

There's nothing fundamentally preventing us from doing so aside from technological limitations. Teleportation isn't impossible. We're just a very long way from having the technology to do it. Like a seriously long way. There's no reason that we can't create humans with machines. We ARE machines....we just happen to be biological machines. We still have a parts list though. We come with mostly standardized components. There's no reason that you couldn't build a human from scratch. Again, we're just a long way from having that kind of technology, and there are lots of ethical considerations and so on.

You can't unrot something. This isn't a matter of technological limitation, it's a matter of the fact that once something has rotted, it is no longer what it was prior to rotting.

But what's in it for them to experiment on ghouls? They live underground, so it's not like there's a risk of them becoming mutants, and when they come up, they're always in contaminated suit.

A good Institute wouldn't do unethical experiment, a bad Institute would have no reason to do unethical experiment.

Fallout still has a semblance of order and science, teleportation and creating humans are realistic goals and can be achieved, we would just theoretically need to be more advanced scientifically and technologically.

However being able to completely un-rot people, remove all the effects of radiation, and completely alter their life form is not a realistic goal.

That's depend on whether they can transfer your body into a synth, but then there's a question of whether the synth is you or just a dumb machine emulating you.

Being a Ghoul can come in handy - you are immune to radiation, (if I am not mistaken) healed by it, and can live much longer lives than a normal human, General.

I am talking about Director Survivor trying to heal Ghouls, not Institute by its own accord ;P

Though I'm sure the scientists will be happy as long as they get to experiment.

Shut up about Ghouls already, Preston! Here's the map, you know what to do!

But the ghouls are ugly, if they were human again they can help settlements like a brad pitt!

But then you smell like rotten flesh. When a ghoul move into Diamond City, there goes the neighborhood.

Right, general, I'll mark it on your map.

But then you would need life subjects for testing and there is that unethical line comes up again. Basically, they wouldn't experiment on ghouls regardless of whether the Institute is good or bad, one is for ethical reasons the other is for the lack of reasons when there are things they could spend time on like continuing the FEV research. Supermutants > ghouls.

Can do, General.

A settlement is in need of help.

Well a good reason to study the Ghouls in the Institute can be curiosity, there is a lot of scientist trying to make a "better world", why don't help the ghouls too?

They are part of this world, they can't ignore them, they can be like the Brotherhood and exterminate them or be different and help them.

Are more important those monkeys in the Institute than the people from the prewar?

They even can teach more things than the few books and things that remained intact

Yep, which is why I mentioned not having willing subjects being a problem. Ghouls are screwed ;P

The only saving of ghouls is dumping lead into them

Assuming they remain evil, they want to make a better world for themselves not the ghouls or even the humans on the surface. If they were good, the question would be that it's very unethical to test on lived human subjects. There are many drugs that can be used to treat cancer or terminally ill disease but many of these drugs are still on clinical trials because they can't test it on lived humans which would be unethical if they don't know for certain the side effects.

The best chance the ghouls have at curing themselves would be if the Institute remain evil, but there has to be a compelling reason why they want to even testing on innocent ghouls when there are different projects that could help them like cybernatic or supermutants.

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Can't reconstitute leather into animal hide..

But I suppose the Institute could transplant their brains into Synth units.. but they would be cyborgs not human..