Everyone:

I just finished the Civil War story arc and now I seem to have Hadvar attached to me as a permanent follower. There's no command to tell him to go home or whatever. I tried killing him, but that's impossible. I waited 24 hours in-game time to see if he would leave, but he hasn't. What the [censored] is going on?! Jesus, it's always something borked with this damnable game.

Save game, quit, reload.

fat travel to whiterun, walk/run to riverwood, enter the inn, exit the inn, walk/run back to whiterun and now he shouldn't be following.

My friend couldn't get Hadvar to leave him alone after he was aggravated so he gave up and traded Skyrim in.

True and sad story.

Well, that's a little bit extreme...

That seems a bit much

He's just somebody who can't immerse himself in open-world games anyways. Comes as a shock to me (and I'm sure most of the forum), but Skyrim is challenging to some people... and without anything forcing them to do something they get bored. It's a sad reality.

That did the trick, I think.

*shakes head* I've played video games since childhood, and Bethesda's "Skyrim" is among the most beautiful, graphic-wise, games that I've ever laid eyes on. But, that said, it's also the most bug-prone games I've ever seen, and that detracts from the other aspects of "Skyrim." Damnit, it's hard to role-play a character when you're worrying half the time that a quest might get borked or, well ... *shakes head*

"Skyrim" is a beautiful game, but very bug-prone. I've owned it for the PS3 since it was first released, and my previous two characters (especially the first one that originated with the 1.0 version of "Skyrim") have varying degrees of bugginess.

My husband doesn't like the open world aspect of Skyrim. It drives him a little crazy in RDR. I don't like the very linear aspect of most of the FPS's that he plays, so we are even. He need's the "here's what's next" I guess.

That's one of the reasons that I've had a couple characters that "do no quests", they just go were they want and do what they want. Takes alot of the pressure off, you can injoy all the other things that you like alot more if you aren't worried about "glitching" a quest. I give the character a "job" but never worry about quests.... I do my own.

The Elder Scrolls is my favorite game series and Bethesda is my favorite game studio. I love their games. But Bethesda has always made buggy games. I can forgive the initial bugginess on release. Open world games are more complex to code than linear games. There is no way to predict what players will do with the freedom these games give them. But what I cannot forgive is Bethesda's lack of patch support. This goes for all their games. Some of the still-existing bugs in earlier Elder Scrolls games are worse than any bug in 1.9 Skyrim.

I'll say this: patch support for Skyrim has been better than the patch support they gave all of their previous games put together. They have done a much better job with patches and I applaud them for that. But it isn't good enough. They need to continue to improve. I hope they will. Their games desperately need better patch support.

I love doing this! About one in five of my characters does no quests at all. They follow their noses and get into their own trouble. I love the feeling of being free to go anywhere and do anything without feeling guilty for not saving the world.

Back in my Morrowind days one of my favorite things to do was to send low-level characters on a walking/swimming tour around the perimeters of Vvardenfell and Solstheim. They'd start in Seyda Neen and follow the coastline all around the game world until they got back to Seyda Neen. It was great fun. These extended trips were a kind of massive, home-made, main quest of their own. (I adore making up home-made "main quests" for my characters.)

This is exactly what I do as well. The main fun is that, in the contrary of most quests, the outcome is always different.

I have a quest all lined up for one of my first PC characters ( when I get my pc that is). Cartographer, that will be her job. They are suposed to map the Islands in the north area. ( which they will do) They will run into Septimus and get the wild idea of maping the Dwemer ruins, kinda like maping a cave, but with the ruins. Needs a mod or two. Of course it has to be a party, guards, apprentice cartographer..etc.

I like finding my own quests that kinda "match up" to something that makes sense in game.

Yes, exactly!

I like to complete the Civil War and Alduin story lines with my characters, then go off in whatever direction afterward.

My current character, for example, is a "good" vampire who plans on eventually betraying Lord Harkon with Serana at her side. Speaking of vampires, I just encountered my first-ever Night Master vampire ... and, good God, she was impossible to defeat (my character is level 43 with 100 percent sneak) with ranged magical combat. I ended up having to consume an invisibility potion to get in close enough to that vampire to kill her. Huh. I thought those Night Master vampires weren't supposed to pop until around level 65. What's next? A legendary dragon making mince-meat out of my 43-level character? *lol* Or, wait, will the Ebony Warrior make a special appearance at disintegrate me by merely glancing in my direction?