Why do I keep crashing? : IV

» Sat May 28, 2011 2:10 pm

So here's the problem, I tried to fast travel to Sideways cave to check out some new cave textures I downloaded and my game crashed. So I try traveling to the prison sewer exit and Vilverin and the same thing. Even walking to there from the west side of the island my game crashes just as I reach the sewer exit. My game was working fine there the other day. The only thing I've changed since then is adding Imperial City expanded and Amp's Oblivion makeover and cave textures. The game was working fine with the oblivion makeover textures. As far as I know I haven't changed or added anything that should be affecting that area. It just started happening for no reason.

Load order

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Cybiades.esm  [Version 2.0]02  EnhancedWeather.esm  [Version 1.3.5]03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]08  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]09  Artifacts.esm0A  Better Cities Resources.esm0B  bookplacing.esm  [Version 1]0C  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.7]0D  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]0E  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp0F  DLCShiveringIsles.esp10  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]11  Better Cities .esp12  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp13  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp14  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp15  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]16  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  LoadingScreens.esp17  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp18  EnhancedWeather.esp  [Version 1.3.5]19  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]1A  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp1B  LightningStrikes.esp**  SnakeLightningSpeed.esp1C  WindowLightingSystem.esp1D  Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp1E  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp1F  aaaBorsBedrolls.esp20  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp21  SwampGrass.esp22  Reznod_Mannequin.esp23  Landmarks, w Wells.esp  [Version 1.11]24  DLCHorseArmor.esp25  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]26  DLCOrrery.esp27  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]28  DLCVileLair.esp29  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]2A  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp2B  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]2C  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp2D  DLCThievesDen.esp2E  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]2F  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]30  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp31  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]32  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]33  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]**  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]34  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]35  OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp  [Version 1.33]**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]++  ArmamentariumLL.esp  [Version 1.35]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]36  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]37  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]38  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]39  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3A  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3B  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3C  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3D  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3E  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3F  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]**  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]40  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]41  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]42  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]43  Artifacts.esp++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]44  BravilSeaDomesixpanded.esp45  eyja.esp46  ICEXPAND.esp47  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.5]48  Museum.esp49  Septim Mansion.esp4A  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp4B  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp4C  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]4D  BattlehornCastleEnhanced.esp4E  DLCFrostcrag.esp4F  Knights.esp50  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]51  Cybiades.esp  [Version 2.1]52  CybiadesDungeon.esp  [Version 2.1]++  cybCrashFix.esp53  TOTF.esp54  The Lost Spires.esp55  Shadowcrest_Vineyard.esp56  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]57  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]58  LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp59  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]5A  xulTheHeath.esp5B  XulEntiusGorge.esp5C  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]5D  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp  [Version 1.2]5E  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]5F  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]60  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]61  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]62  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]63  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]64  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]65  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]66  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]67  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]68  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]69  xulPantherRiver.esp6A  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]6B  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]6C  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.5]6D  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.0.4]6E  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]6F  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]70  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp71  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0]72  FrostcragReborn-Snowdale patch.esp73  Millstone_Farm.esp74  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp++  Book Placement v2.esp  [Version 2.0]75  Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp76  Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp77  Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp  [Version 1.2]++  ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp78  Quest Award Leveller.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Battlehorn Castle.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp79  Carry_all_you_want-5118.esp7A  RealisticForceHigh.esp7B  Telekinetic Mastery.esp  [Version 2]7C  MidasSpells.esp7D  EnchantmentRestore.esp++  EnchantmentRestore_Wells.esp7E  StealthOverhaul.esp7F  No psychic guards v1.2.esp80  Oblivion XP.esp  [Version 4.1.5]81  CTAddPose_osr1.esp82  CTAddPose_osr2.esp83  CTAddPose_osr3.esp84  actors_in_charge.esp85  77_Umpa_Animation.esp86  Moonshadow Elves - NoSc.esp87  KT_CustomRaceFix.esp88  Better Cities Full.esp89  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp8A  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp8B  Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp8C  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp8D  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp8E  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp8F  Better Imperial City.esp90  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp91  Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp++  Visually Enchanted Damage and Absorb with Particles.esp++  Visually Enchanted Fire 1.esp++  Visually Enchanted Frost 1.esp++  Visually Enchanted Shock 1.esp92  LandMagicPatch.esp93  Bashed Patch, 0.esp94  FormID Finder4.esp95  Streamline 3.1.esp96  Slof's Nightmare.esp97  Alluring Potion Bottles v2.esp98  OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp

» Sun May 29, 2011 12:59 am

:angry:

:brokencomputer: Now when I fast travel to outside the Market place the game crashes for me.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:55 pm

:angry:

:brokencomputer: Now when I fast travel to outside the Market place the game crashes for me.

Try uninstalling your latest additions and loading then.

Sounds like it's the IC expansion.

» Sat May 28, 2011 12:31 pm

Try uninstalling your latest additions and loading then.

Sounds like it's the IC expansion.

I'll try that but that only deals with the inside of the IC. I don't see how that could affect an area out side of the IC.

» Sun May 29, 2011 4:17 am

I'll try that but that only deals with the inside of the IC. I don't see how that could affect an area out side of the IC.

Could be a dirty mod, otherwise i'm stumped too.

» Sat May 28, 2011 6:38 pm

DUDE WTF!!!! So I went and deactivated the mod rebuilt my bash patch and everything seems fine. I don't get how a mod that doesn't and SHOULDN'T deal with that area outside the city can cause my game to crash on that side of the city. It's weird too because things worked just fine with it before.

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:52 pm

So here's the problem, I tried to fast travel to Sideways cave to check out some new cave textures I downloaded and my game crashed. So I try traveling to the prison sewer exit and Vilverin and the same thing. Even walking to there from the west side of the island my game crashes just as I reach the sewer exit. My game was working fine there the other day. The only thing I've changed since then is adding Imperial City expanded and Amp's Oblivion makeover and cave textures. The game was working fine with the oblivion makeover textures. As far as I know I haven't changed or added anything that should be affecting that area. It just started happening for no reason.

Load order

Spoiler

Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Cybiades.esm  [Version 2.0]02  EnhancedWeather.esm  [Version 1.3.5]03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]08  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]09  Artifacts.esm0A  Better Cities Resources.esm0B  bookplacing.esm  [Version 1]0C  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.7]0D  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]0E  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp0F  DLCShiveringIsles.esp10  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]11  Better Cities .esp12  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp13  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp14  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp15  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]16  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  LoadingScreens.esp17  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp18  EnhancedWeather.esp  [Version 1.3.5]19  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]1A  Enhanced Water v2.0 HD.esp1B  LightningStrikes.esp**  SnakeLightningSpeed.esp1C  WindowLightingSystem.esp1D  Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp1E  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp1F  aaaBorsBedrolls.esp20  ClocksOfCyrodiil_BC_OBC_OC_OCLR_Vanilla.esp21  SwampGrass.esp22  Reznod_Mannequin.esp23  Landmarks, w Wells.esp  [Version 1.11]24  DLCHorseArmor.esp25  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]26  DLCOrrery.esp27  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.3]28  DLCVileLair.esp29  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]2A  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp2B  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]2C  DLCSpellTomes.esp++  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]++  MaleBodyReplacerV4.esp2D  DLCThievesDen.esp2E  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.5]2F  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.4]30  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp31  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]32  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]33  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]**  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]34  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]35  OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp  [Version 1.33]**  OMOBS.esp  [Version 1.0]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 1.0]++  ArmamentariumLL.esp  [Version 1.35]++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]36  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]37  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]38  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]39  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3A  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_SaferRoads.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3B  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3C  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3D  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3E  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3F  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot OOO.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]**  FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp  [Version 0.9.9]40  FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp  [Version 0.9.9]41  FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]42  OOO-WaterFish.esp  [Version 1.34]43  Artifacts.esp++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]44  BravilSeaDomesixpanded.esp45  eyja.esp46  ICEXPAND.esp47  LetThePeopleDrink.esp  [Version 2.5]48  Museum.esp49  Septim Mansion.esp4A  VaultsofCyrodiilBC.esp4B  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp4C  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.4]4D  BattlehornCastleEnhanced.esp4E  DLCFrostcrag.esp4F  Knights.esp50  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.9]51  Cybiades.esp  [Version 2.1]52  CybiadesDungeon.esp  [Version 2.1]++  cybCrashFix.esp53  TOTF.esp54  The Lost Spires.esp55  Shadowcrest_Vineyard.esp56  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]57  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]58  LostSpires-DarkForest patch.esp59  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]5A  xulTheHeath.esp5B  XulEntiusGorge.esp5C  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]5D  LostSpires-Everglade patch.esp  [Version 1.2]5E  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.1]5F  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.2]60  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.4]61  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.2]62  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3]63  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.3]64  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]65  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]66  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.3]67  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]68  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.2]69  xulPantherRiver.esp6A  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]6B  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.0.2]6C  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.5]6D  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.0.4]6E  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]6F  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.2]70  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp71  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0]72  FrostcragReborn-Snowdale patch.esp73  Millstone_Farm.esp74  Natural_Vegetation_by_Max_Tael.esp++  Book Placement v2.esp  [Version 2.0]75  Dungeon Actors Have Torches 1.6 DT.esp76  Exterior Actors Have Torches 1.3 DT.esp77  Oblivifall - Ambiant Dungeon SFX.esp  [Version 1.2]++  ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp78  Quest Award Leveller.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Battlehorn Castle.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Vile Lair.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Mehrunes Razor.esp++  Quest Award Leveller - Knights of the Nine.esp79  Carry_all_you_want-5118.esp7A  RealisticForceHigh.esp7B  Telekinetic Mastery.esp  [Version 2]7C  MidasSpells.esp7D  EnchantmentRestore.esp++  EnchantmentRestore_Wells.esp7E  StealthOverhaul.esp7F  No psychic guards v1.2.esp80  Oblivion XP.esp  [Version 4.1.5]81  CTAddPose_osr1.esp82  CTAddPose_osr2.esp83  CTAddPose_osr3.esp84  actors_in_charge.esp85  77_Umpa_Animation.esp86  Moonshadow Elves - NoSc.esp87  KT_CustomRaceFix.esp88  Better Cities Full.esp89  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Barrowfields.esp8A  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Chorrol Hinterland.esp8B  Better Cities - Tears of the Fiend.esp8C  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Cheydinhal Falls.esp8D  Better Cities - Unique Landscape Skingrad Outskirts.esp8E  Better Cities - VWD of the IC.esp8F  Better Imperial City.esp90  Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp91  Better Cities Full FPS Patch.esp++  Visually Enchanted Damage and Absorb with Particles.esp++  Visually Enchanted Fire 1.esp++  Visually Enchanted Frost 1.esp++  Visually Enchanted Shock 1.esp92  LandMagicPatch.esp93  Bashed Patch, 0.esp94  FormID Finder4.esp95  Streamline 3.1.esp96  Slof's Nightmare.esp97  Alluring Potion Bottles v2.esp98  OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp

I can tell you exactly what's wrong with your loadorder.

1. The All Nautral Weather 0.9.9.5 must be reinstalled, because the All Natural - Real Lights.esp have missing masters

2. The UOP is outdated and here is the latest http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1112327-relz-unofficial-oblivion-patch-320-thru-3210-supplemental-patches-hotfixes-uomp-knights-updates-relz/

3. You need to run http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20516 to fix the loadorder

4. Install http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22368 and rebuild the bashed patch

If there is anything else you need our help with just ask.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:44 pm

I can tell you exactly what's wrong with your loadorder.

1. The All Nautral Weather 0.9.9.5 must be reinstalled, because the All Natural - Real Lights.esp have missing masters

2. The UOP is outdated and here is the latest http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1112327-relz-unofficial-oblivion-patch-320-thru-3210-supplemental-patches-hotfixes-uomp-knights-updates-relz/

3. You need to run http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20516 to fix the loadorder

4. Install http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=22368 and rebuild the bashed patch

If there is anything else you need our help with just ask.

1. Didn't know it was out of date

2. Updated to 3.2.10

3. I run BOSS every time i add a new mod or remove one.

4. Wrye Bash is up to date as of Sunday

As soon as my bash patch is done I'll try it out and see if things work.

» Sat May 28, 2011 11:00 pm

Well I've gone the last 3 or 4 days without any crashes but today I've started getting CTD's around Weynon Priory and when ever I fast travel to Battlehorn Castle. I was fine this morning I could fast travel or walk from Battlehorn to the IC and back but now I keep crashing when walking past the priory or fast traveling to my home in battlehorn. Only things I've added were a couple of companion mods.

Here is my load order which I've used BOSS on and everything seems ok to me.

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Cybiades.esm  [Version 2.0]02  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 0.9.9.5]03  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]05  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]06  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]07  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]08  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]09  Artifacts.esm0A  DremoraCompanion.esm0B  Better Cities Resources.esm0C  bookplacing.esm  [Version 1]0D  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.2.10]0E  UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp  [Version 1.0.0]0F  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp10  DLCShiveringIsles.esp11  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.0]12  Better Cities .esp13  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp14  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp15  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp16  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]17  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  LoadingScreens.esp18  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp19  All Natural.esp  [Version 0.9.9.5]1A  All Natural - 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» Sat May 28, 2011 7:18 pm

I take it BOSS doesn't yet recognize the OOO-Snowdale patch? (Checking the dates, I guess not.)

I doubt it's causing your problem (since I did clean it before submitting it), but I'd still suggest moving it to load just after Snowdale, keep things tidy, ya know? :wink_smile:

» Sat May 28, 2011 9:20 pm

I take it BOSS doesn't yet recognize the OOO-Snowdale patch? (Checking the dates, I guess not.)

I doubt it's causing your problem (since I did clean it before submitting it), but I'd still suggest moving it to load just after Snowdale, keep things tidy, ya know? :wink_smile:

yeah I guess the newest BOSS update isn't out yet. I've had that for about a week now? I don't know why the newest installed mods would cause a problem but I guess I'll have to deactivate them and activate one at a time. At least it's only a few.

» Sat May 28, 2011 3:00 pm

Have you even read the comments for ICEXPAND on nexus?

Just read the last few pages of comments. Broken mod that one.

But that may not even be your real issue. The mistake you are making is trusting. You trust that because a mod description says that the mod only does A, B, C that it truly does only those three things and not also X,Y, Z. Unintentional edits, dirty edits, wild edits can cause chaos - especially when in conjunction with other mods. Readmes are the minimum reading - go to the comments and forums for user feedback.

I so wish that my first thread was archived - what a hoot that would be to read now. I accused everyone with a load order of over 200 of being liars and challenged them to prove it. Also featured in that thread was an argument between modders that I adore to this day. Uggh. And of course my being dressed down by one of the most obtuse posters this forum has ever seen. Comedy in hindsight.

Modding this game takes patience and fortitude to stick it out. So many times I've complained and belly ached about this or that load order posting my own in hopes that someone would fix it for me when the only thing that worked was disabling sections of mods sometimes down to one at a time, rebuilding the bashed patch repeatedly, then after finding what I thought was the problem mod and loading the rest up only to find it was a problem in relation to another mod or that I had two or three mods that were problematic.

That is not even touching the subject of mod cleaning and learning to install the game correctly, configure the settings, modding to system specs, etc.

» Sat May 28, 2011 10:38 pm

You're right I'm an idiot. I went back and looked at my game and I was crashing right when everybody said that bug was happening. Well guess I can't use that till it's fixed.

» Sun May 29, 2011 2:18 am

I wouldn't hold your breath - and further back in the comments is a supposed fix. I tried that and it did not work.