I still think you are using Newtonian conditions, which probably don't exist in the Fallout universe; but Newtonian! conditions are probably quite different.

Also any laser - powerful enough to be used as a weapon is not in the visible spectrum. The beam would be invisible.

Even a beam in the visible spectrum will only be seen if passing through smoke or dust. You can test this yourself with a laser pointer.

Of course, the "rule of cool" dictates that we be able to see the beam shooting out.

Star wars blasters are particle-beam weapons that fire plasma bolts.


Star trek no idea. Only star trek I have seen are the Abrahms ones.

All of these things are based on actual scientific theory.

Star Wars blasters are basically plasma weapons -- streams of highly excited ozone gas, I believe.

Phasers are supposed to be energy that's a stream of photon particles, if I remember my geek lessons (I was never much into Star Trek.)

Lasers are concentrated light beams at extremely high frequencies. If we're going to argue about whether lasers "kick", they don't. Even in pure zero-G, an extremely powerful laser (capable of cutting through steel in seconds) won't even move visibly when fired.

The reason they kick like a shotgun in Fallout 4 is because it's cool. Far better than the extended firing times and invisible beams that would model them more realistically.

I was thinking of the laser cannons on X-Wings, TIE fighters etc.

Lucas is said to have been inspired by WW2 aerial combat, maybe gun cam footage, and the look of tracer rounds.

those movies have space wizards, its all magic to me.

This.

Star Wars is Space Opera, and a lot closer to a fantasy setting than a Sci-Fi setting

So is Fallout..?

What are we arguing about here?

ya, we just love going on our own tangents though, it is what makes conversations interesting, you never know where they will end up when you start them.

Still blasters. Just big giant vehicle mounted blasters which are plasma weapons. Now would plasma projectile have color? I have no idea.

That and you can't turn reactor on and off as you please, energy released by nuclear fusion is not used directly, it is being transformed in to steam which powers steam turbines which then create electricity.

But such cell is still in boundaries of imagined possible science. Light creating recoil does not. It simply is unscientific.

yes, you can see it from solar plasma loops (loops of plasma that come from the sun) they are bright red, slower than light and would definitely kill you seen in this link:

https://www.google.com/search?q=sun+plasma+loops&client=ms-android-verizon&espv=1&biw=360&bih=248&prmd=vsin&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj7376J06fKAhWGpB4KHbcBDVgQ_AUICCgD#imgrc=nqPqfGA2-xzu9M%3A

"Nuclear energy" is still radiation. X and Gama rays are form of light -electromagnetic radiation. Human eye just can't see them, just like it can't see infra red.

Maybe it's part of a moveable/spinning cooling coil assembly in the barrel, that seems plausible, Its what I use to explain it away at least. My concern is the plasma rifle, firing it would not only kill the target, but the user and everything else in a certain radius, Exposed plasma would set the air on fire! Not to mention toxic vapours depending on the medium you're firing it in

it depends on the material it is made out of and how hot it is, you know how their is a boiling and melting point? Their is also a "plasma point" for each element and molecule. Sort of like how neon has a very low plasma point and that is what makes neon lights that do not burn the air... And you can fire it in a direction just like with an air gun, it would just be hard to make it accurate or travel fast.

I think a bolt of plasma is over the threshold of vaporisation for o2?? I'm just picturing a guy getting his mitts on a shiny new plasma rifle and just about to use it on some poor unsuspecting raider with his finger pulling back the trigger and it quickly cutting to the raider noticing a quick bright explosion in the distance

Ooooooooooo soooo purtyyyyy.


Well makes sense to have the star wars blasters projectiles be red.


Also gives me an excuse to explain away to Fallout laser rifles. They're really plasma rifles but grunts named them lasers.

Don't NASA colour those? the sun is actually white(cos it's super hot) I thought real plasma had a bluish purple and green tinge, again it depends on the gases involved

ya but it looks way more awesome in yellow or red lol and yes it depends on the element being used.

No idea. Still purty doe.


I also know the Laser rifle in fallout was labeled AER-9. Could mean Army Energy Rifle.

Maybe they're only called lasers in the various Star Wars games then. (Played a lot of X-Wing Alliance)

The word 'laser' is never used the movies?

The X-Wing did have IX4 Laser Cannons made by Taim and Bak.


However they use the same principles as blasters just scaled up to fit in vehicles.

So how is using the prefix 'laser', not claiming them not to be lasers?

Because they fire plasma bolts not focused invisible lasers.


All the weapons in Star Wars are blasters that fire plasma bolts. Generally vehicle mounted weapons are called lasers for some reason.

"for some reason"

Well, that's what I'm getting at, in a roundabout sort of way.