why do laser rifles and pistols have recoil?

Post » Mon Jan 18, 2016 12:38 am

Always bugged me, light does not have weight, I could see a motor giving sway to a laser gun shot continuously like on a gattling laser (which would make more sense to fire a continuous beam instead of multiple small bursts) but it would not kick from firing.
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Auguste Bartholdi
 
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Post » Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:22 am

I would say for gameplay balance reasons. ;) Who knows what happens in the fusion cells you consume.

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Terry
 
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Post » Mon Jan 18, 2016 8:48 am

Aye, a bit strange.



I had a fully modded legendary LR but swapped out one part and put an automatic mod on it. I was looking at the sky in about three shots.

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Clea Jamerson
 
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Post » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:32 pm

they seem to act as unchargable batteries which do not move.
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Charleigh Anderson
 
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Post » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:25 pm

i think firing a weapon wouldnt "feel" good if you woundt "feel" it

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CHANONE
 
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Post » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:07 pm

Light does have pressure - you can move things around with it in space for example - but certainly not enough to explain this effect.



Want me to make up a reason for you? --The recoil is a reverse piezo-electric effect from pushing that much energy through the crystals. ;)

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Alada Vaginah
 
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Post » Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:27 am

it all has to do with quantum stuff

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Mark Hepworth
 
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Post » Sun Jan 17, 2016 11:41 pm

yes but it would prevent accuracy loss from recoil... I could see if it overheated instead but it shouldn't recoil.
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Post » Mon Jan 18, 2016 12:31 am



Until you build and fire a mobile laser gun you throw out assumptions. We dont know how the devs designed the technology behind the laser weapons in fallout. Plus we dont have real life examples for portable laser weapons. So its not possible to say it is wrong displayed in game
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Kortniie Dumont
 
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Post » Mon Jan 18, 2016 12:34 am

For the same reason the bolt knob is on the wrong side of the hunting rifle.

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Post » Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:49 am

Same reason Tie-Fighters scream in outer space.

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Post » Mon Jan 18, 2016 6:20 am

According to the mods it is a capacitor discharge that emits the burst. So the pressure of that discharge is what you are feeling. I would imagine that a capacitor of the size needed to produce that burst would have a decent "recoil" to it.

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Post » Mon Jan 18, 2016 7:03 am

You know, the laser weapons aren't actually an unbelievable amount of energy. Judging from comparing them to the damage of the 10mm, they're only doing about a kilojoule per shot. Assuming a quarter-second "shot" it would need to be about a 4 kWatt laser - which is around a 1/4 to a 1/3 the size of the existing Navy laser.

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Post » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:19 pm

intercoms that display radar tracking data by speakers placed around the ship the camera is watching the tie fighters from grow louder baced on proximity and detected engine power. Would actually be a good feature to have so ships do not sneak up on you as easily in space and so you know what direction they are without looking at a 3D radar screen all of the time.
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Post » Mon Jan 18, 2016 7:44 am

Not really. Electrons have such a tiny mass that moving them around doesn't push very much. Also I'd have to think about it more to be sure, but off the top of my head I think any force generated by such would have a natural/automatic counter-force in the same system. Actually, that kills my piezoelectric idea, too - from the frame of reference of the gun all such motion is "in system". (Guns recoil because they eject gasses and bullets outside the system of the gun.)



I guess ultimately it recoils because it would be insanely OP if it didn't. ;)

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Post » Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:01 am

agian I think it should overheat if fired for too long, getting less accurate from the barrel expanding (warping the lenses consintrating the light in the barrel) before overheating compleately and have a cooldown period instead of having recoil
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Post » Mon Jan 18, 2016 4:36 am

It was likely some a decision made some stupid Buisness exec to add an artificial kick to their laser weapons. Like the idiot who decided to add a glossy finish to monitors.

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Post » Mon Jan 18, 2016 9:23 am

For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction?


Also, if you want to compare the laser guns to the IRL navy laser take into account how long the real laser has to sit on target to do damage, verus the instant damage we get in game.
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Post » Mon Jan 18, 2016 12:00 am

You forget that "laser" doesnt have to actually refer to a beam of light, simply. It may've just been a coined term for the technology..
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Post » Mon Jan 18, 2016 5:52 am

they already have plasma rifles which would have weight in each blast so the laser rifles are most likely supposed to use light instead of plasma otherwise they would just be called plasma rifels too (plasma being the most likely alternative to light that would cause a bright coloration in each round)
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Post » Mon Jan 18, 2016 10:52 am



I edited this when i realised (googled) light doesnt have mass but has momentum.

It still gives reason as to why theres kick, though;

when you transfer energy (the fusion cell converting fusion power to light) theres energy released unintentionally in the process, which can vary as to what form but given the kick the excess energy must be released kineticly.
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Post » Mon Jan 18, 2016 7:56 am

Because SCIENCE!

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Kit Marsden
 
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Post » Mon Jan 18, 2016 3:48 am

Light does exhibit a small pushback when ejected from something but it's tiny.



Ok, but kinetically HOW? The gun only moves is something is ejected from it; any other physical changes just increase heat. Oh...heat! How about if recoil impulse is caused by cooling gasses that are ejected with each firing? That makes some sense.



But really Berret has the right of it. It's Science! We should call them "blasters" a la Star Wars instead of lasers. ;)

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Post » Sun Jan 17, 2016 10:16 pm

now that I think about it more it could be ejecting exaust and intaking air to cool itself which could create recoil, I guess it does make sense.
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Post » Mon Jan 18, 2016 11:56 am



Yeah. We call this momentum. But how much light is being produced in that small bullet-sized beam? Its possiable it could add up to a substancial enough amount to make a kick.


And kinetic how? :S kinetic energy is physical; the guns recoil.

I.e;

The power source is loaded (fusion cell).

The person pulls the trigger. The fusion cell then provides its energy to a catalyst (the tech in the laser rifle) which converts that to "light" (the 'bullet') and during that process some energy is inadvertantly released as kinistetic energy (the guns kick) instead of "light" (the 'bullet')


This happens in real-life power stations when transferring energy to houses. You loose some in the transferance- be it thermal, kinistetic, ect.


Pretty much.. You cant really know how or if the tech is viable in reality to begin with and untill thats found out.. Anybodys guess
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