Why LASER weapons are so unrealistic in Fallout?

Post » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:48 am

Peew peew peew! Laserbeam! (colour of choice) Zap zap peew! What's not to like seriously?
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Rachell Katherine
 
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Post » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:32 am

In real life radiation doesn't turn you into a ghoul or create glowing neon green goo.



Fallout is not realistic.



Fallout is not trying to be realistic.



The real world works based on ''Science.''



The fallout universe works based on SCIENCE!

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Steven Nicholson
 
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Post » Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:23 am

You do kind of hear noise from the industrial lasers that I've used, but that's more about the damage they inflict on the object they're firing at. And a weapon laser probably wouldn't be firing for as long as that.

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chirsty aggas
 
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Post » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:03 am

real life handheld "laser guns" will never exist, I assure you

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Joie Perez
 
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Post » Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:48 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_Weapon_System




All these people like "Lazur wepnz r nut reel"




Uh, yes, they are.

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Gemma Flanagan
 
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Post » Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:11 pm


Was so drunk that I could not express myself correctly :P



What I mean is that it is a detail that really gets on my nerve, because yes, there is some fantasy in the fallout universe (it is my favorite series to life, so I totally accept the fantasy, aliens, etc), but a recoil caused by a LIGHT BEAM, even in an alternate universe, makes no sense, and it is irritating because I feel like it was just a lazily overlooked characteristic of the weapon. I feel like some weapon designer was designing some pistols, then got to the laser weapons and just made them the same without thinking further.



At least in FO3 and F:NV, they were smart enough to make laser-based weapons recoil-less.



That is why I find it so irritating.

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Eoh
 
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Post » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:57 pm

I think the idea for the recoil on lasers was to make them more fun and interesting to use rather than being realistic in any way.



A lot of the changes from 3/NV to 4 are along those lines. Lots of left handed bolts and stuff to give a better view of your character using the weapon, the recoil also actually existing instead of being implied.



Its all part of addressing that major complaint that has haunted Bethesda for quite some time now: "The combat svcks!".

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Chloe Mayo
 
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Post » Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:41 pm

I dare you to take that weapon and a otherworldly battery on your shoulder and go hunt game... :P (I get what you mean tho :D )

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Post » Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:05 pm


http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/e/e3/Guns_and_bullets_lasers_cover.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20151212015233

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Dean Brown
 
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Post » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:36 am

Yup, poor bunny :sadvaultboy: :P

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Post » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:25 pm

I love these topics. All these people who can see what tech will be like in 2077 or 200 years after.


60 years from 2016 is about 61 years.


Go back from 2016 to 61 years before 1955 and tell them things we have now. And see how unrealistic they think things are.


And that's reality. Now think about how you are yammering on about realism inna video game.


Yammering about realism inna video game is unrealistic.


If I want real I will go outside into tha real world.


Thank you to any game developer who do not push realism to much in video games.

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Sara Johanna Scenariste
 
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Post » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:18 am

You mean that people in 2016 would carry around small computers with them in their pocket, that are a combination telephone, colour TV, alarm clock, notepad, and countless other fanciful dreams, and that they went to space decades ago and only maintain a orbital space station and little else despite them carrying around flight computers everywhere?



And you also say that they could have face to face communication with someone on the other side of the planet, right? This sci fi is terrible, there's no way you're going to get this crap published, Asimov. Things need to be believable to be taken seriously.

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Post » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:52 pm

I think (IMO anyway lol) that without recoil, firing perfectly straight as a laser should the laser weapons would be too easy? A full auto laser rifle with a few good upgrades would just be a laser hose. As long as you kept the sight on you enemy theoretically you'd never miss. No recoil, dead straight beam, just hose them down! Now I don't really mind that much cause I just get some primitive satisfaction out of making a Big Bang just before I blow someone into chunky bits so only use ballistics apart from a last resort critical bonus plasma pistol but with certain mods lasers kick like mad totally agree. It's just hard to say if they're realistic or not. They are Bethesdas interpretation of a laser, like there's Starwars lasers and WH40k laser weapons etc. As the only hand held lasers in life are all experimental who really knows what they may or may not look/shoot like if they ever become a cheaper more viable option than shooting someone in the face with a bit of lead. But if your image of what they should be is nothing like these then I guess everyone can find something unrealistic in this game that'll sh*t them to tears ????
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Post » Tue Mar 22, 2016 7:02 pm


It is a matter of awe and disappointment. We are supposed to have robot butlers, lunar colonies, flying cars, and other technologies that we don't have yet. After all, look at Back to the Future II which was set last year. Where is our flying cars, Mr. Fusion, self-cleaning clothes, self-tying shoes, and most importantly hoverboards? Nike is coming out with a self-tying shoe, but will likely take years before it reaches a reasonable price and the Hoverboard that we have are extremely limited to where they can operate. Star Trek had the Eugenics War and launched Khan into space with a ship that was capable of cryogenic suspension and interstellar travel in the 90s. What do we have that is superior to what people 61 years thought we would have? Smartphones, Tablets, Internet, Drones, VR helmets, and Social Media.

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Post » Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:08 pm

Not thought we should have. Have. There is a difference.

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Tracy Byworth
 
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Post » Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:33 pm

Now I have a dire case of tha giggles.

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Jennifer Rose
 
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Post » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:27 pm

We will eventually have self aware Artificial Intelligence (A.I). So we will eventually have robot butlers, We may have lunar fuel depots, flying cars I'm not so sure everyone flying would result in more accidents than when you drive a car. Flying commercial airliners is more safer than driving a car though, statistically speaking. Hoverboards are coming into existence just now, but they svck a little bit they are not working fully yet like they do in the Back to the Future movies. We will eventually get there with hover technology advancing more and more every year.

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Post » Tue Mar 22, 2016 6:10 pm


Yeah, we will eventually get all that technology, but the point of my post was people 60 years ago thought we would have that technology by now not 50 years from now. Flying commercial airliners is only safer because it costs far more and more time consuming to get a pilot license compared to getting a driving license. If it cost thousands of dollars and months to get a driver's license, then driving a car would be as safe as flying a plane.



It would take decades to get a hoverboard that works similar to the ones in Back to the Future. Current hoverboards require fans or superconducting magnets and a track. Both don't have the same effect as the Back to the Future hoverboard. The superconducting hoverboard doesn't have the freedom and the hoverboards requiring fans causes too much disturbance to the ground. A Back to the Future hoverboard would require something like antigrav and that requires a far better understanding of how gravity works.

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Post » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:11 pm

We'd need to know exactly how does a 'realistic' laser weapon work in real life first before we can compare it to how they work in Fallout games.

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Elizabeth Lysons
 
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Post » Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:00 pm

here you go this guy has already asked the question in letter to Bethesda.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKHa9Df0bCk

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Post » Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:56 pm

I agree. I own a laser pistol in real life and they're totally different from the fakey ones in Fallout.



Shame on BGS.

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Post » Tue Mar 22, 2016 6:04 pm

LOL - Do you get 20 shots out of what looks an awfully lot like a "D" cell flashlight battery with it as well?



The RL "realistic" ones are either quite small and only good for pissing off housecats, or currently as big as your car and bolted to the deck of a navy destroyer- that's the real current state of the art .

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Post » Tue Mar 22, 2016 3:23 pm

There are hand held laser weapons in production as prototypes for Research and Development (R&D) by the United States military.

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Richard
 
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Post » Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:41 am


Lol, what a lame rant. Really, how many gamers would really care about ridiculous critiques like this? Whoever made that video apparently has way too much time on their hands. It's a freaking fantasy video game. Not a science class on weapons ballistic and the physiology of heat and realistic recoil of laser rifles. Dude needs to seriously get a grip. No wonder devs cherry pick suggestions and player feedback.

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Post » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:17 am



The thread ended after this statement. All other talk on the matter is moot.
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