That's why they're so damn good hunters and rangers :toughninja:

But like previously said, Bosmers are one of the cooler races in game...but usually only when player created. With a couple of mods Bosmer is the easiest race to make cool characters (vanilla races at least).

I have nothing against them cept Fargoth.. I think they're vicious little buggers

Geanor

Well, in Morrowind, there were too many Bosmer males that were hitting on me, and there were too few Bosmer females that didn't seem to care at all.

Yeah, we need a cool bosmer NPC, I suggest some kind of Robin Hood character, who can split a fly in the city, shooting from the woods.

Are you implying they are homosixuals?

I've never found the Bosmer as a race to be annoying and "silly". There's occasionally the idiotic one, but, for the most part, I've always seen them just as awesome as the other races. Might just be me :shrug:

Oh, and like every other mer race, the Bosmer where just a joke in Oblivion.

Only the tribal Bosmers are cannibals. Those who follow the old ideas. But those are not very numerous outside Valenwood.

"I have a feeling you and I are about to come... veery close..."
"AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!"

Also, was it just me or were the Bosmer girls a little cute in Morrowind?

They were okay but their voices really got on my nerves after the first few times I heard it. It makes them sound like divas and spoiled teens. :thumbsdown: It's like Bethesda wants us to hate one of it's races :shrug:

Short characters are harder to make cool. Fantasy races like dwarves, gnomes, and bosmer are all way harder to take seriously than Imperials/ Humans and other, less vertically-challenged races. Add annoying voices and a tendency to have bizarre personalities and you get a race that doesn't exactly reek of heroism and could never be awe-inspiring.

They'd make good jesters though.

My first character I make in each TES game is usually bosmer. I like them.

They are really not all that short, if they were in real life they would probably be around 5'1-5'6 which is not that short. There voices a little annoying, but that is the dev's fault, and I like their bizarre personalities. I agree with the heroism part.

I beg to differ. Dwarves are a great example. A typical Dwarven race will tend to have amazing smithing skills, and are usually an honour bound race. Even with thier stumpy posture and scottish acents, companies often make Dwarves seem just as cool as any other race. This is because it's usually recycled lore from other media, and it isn't hard to recreate a good Dwarven race. I think World of Warcraft ad great lore on the Dwarven race, for example. Bosmer had difficult lore to work with. How can you create a civilised race of cannibals?

True about the last thing... But they tried to give them some lore with "A Dance in the Fire" or whatever it was called. Decumus Scotti ya know.

I think the Aztecs were cannibal?

A purely ES IV perspective here (I've not played Morrowind)

The male bosmer do seem to have been made deliberately irritating (Maglir, Glathir, the Adoring fan, the guy who is after Manker Cameron's commentaries, the hokerr in Anvil Docks, Rindir). On the other hand the women seem pretty cool. (what do they see in the males?)

Good for them. :shrug:

There are a number of reasons why people don't like Bosmer, I'd say. The cannibalism might have something to do with it, but to those who haven't done that much research, it would also stand out that in both Morrowind and Oblivion, Bethesda decided to give their males very annoying voices, and made many hated characters in the games Bosmer, so it's to be expected that some wouldn't be too fond of them.

Personally, though, I don't like any of the elves in the Elder Scrolls. Elves are just such a cliche and overused fantasy concept, and really, it's hard for me to take any race that shares a name with the little guys that make toys for Santa Claus seriously, and really, I never got what the obsession certain fantasy writers have with races that are basically humans except with different body proportions, facial features or funny shaped ears. It's just such an uncreative and boring way to make non-human races in your setting. The least they could do is change the color of their skin. If you're not going to even try to make race designs that will stand out, you might as well just not bother and just have different human cultures. And the lore written for the Elder Scrolls elves that aims to make them different from typical elves often instead just makes them even more unlikable to me, I mean things like the Bosmer's cannibalism or the Dunmer's slavery. Maybe these things wouldn't be so bad if they were villains, but it's rather hard for me to relate to a culture that eats their own dead or enslaves other races as the "good guys".



The difference here is that cannibalism is an aspect of Bosmer culture, whereas the other thing seems to be just a quirk of that character, and in fact is probably punished quite severely in Dunmer society, as indicated by her dialog when you tell her that it's at least 500 gold in Cyrodiil and she says it's much less than Morrowind.



I don't know, I have a pretty hard time taking dwarves seriously in most games. Though it's mostly because of all the cliches that always surround them rather than that they're short. Although there have also been some examples of dwarves in comic relief roles.

Also, did anyone have any trouble taking the Hobbits in Lord of the Rings seriously simply because they weren't as big as other races? I know I didn't.

I thought that Bethesda did a pretty good job wih making the elves creative (they are actuall called "mer").

They have awesome ideas and stuff about the mer, but they need to present themselves better. The dunmer were very nicely fleshed out in MW (duh...), but I'd like to see more emphasis on altmer superiority and extreme xenophobia (save for those who are "altmer" but not perfect altmer). Not to mention some rumors about how cruel they are in reality (like killing ~9/10 babies because they're not perfect).

Also, "civilized" bosmer should still be kinda ignorant on the civilization part. The bosmer are practically animals as is. Also, they need their bears back, and horns brought in (it's in concept art, and some of them have horn lumps in MW)

the should be hairy lol, but seriously they should make them have hair on thier arms and legs, and chest, so they have a more wild native feel

I agree. And bring back beards!

I actually almost always play a female bosmer archer/thief/assassin type character for one of my characters in the elder scrolls.

.... then again, we weren't really talking so much about the female bosmer.

That's because they're the closest thing to fan service.

They were hotter in Morrowind.