I remember morrowind, there were lots of different creatures.
Then oblivion, I think there were slightly less creatures but still lots of them

And now skyrim, it's like only about 20 types of creatures, with just different variations of one creature type, and most of them are animals and draugrs. What the hell happened? Why couldn't they add more creatures? Why do they need to remove so many things in every next game?

Is bethesda just lazy?

Do you think there should be more or is there enough creatures?

Also, it seems that Draugr are in places they shouldn't be. Draugr are dead Nords(I'm assuming) who worshipped the Dragons. I went into one area of dead people and there were draugr, which made absolutely no sense. I forget where though :/

I made the count yesterday, special creatures (Vivec, Mehrunes Dagon) and humanoid (bandits, necromancers...) aside, Morrowind and Oblivion have 30 creature models, while Skyrim has 40 (I'm not counting twice for different recolors of mobs). I didn't count dragons either.

EDIT.: Also, I didn't include DLC or expansions.

I think there is a good amount. Would be cooler if there were more, but wouldn't call Beth lazy for not including an asston of random mobs.

Draugr are just undead Nords.

@op;

And as far as I am aware, someone did a count and there are more different monsters in this game than Oblivion so your premis is flawed due to incorrect information.

well I want 100s more XD

but in Beth. defense the new creatures look and move 10k better than those in OB and MW ever did, also u got the finishing moves and animations for them, its not like the card board lifeless robots we had in TES of old

mods=10k more creatures have no fear

and like someone said skyrim has MORE creatures than OB

And skyrim just takes about 5gb of space, I'm not good at hardware etc. but I think they could have added lots more creatures, because 5gb isn't much for a 2011/12 game.
I don't know if more creatures would need some more processing power, or ram. ( I don't think it would, because ram is short term memory so it is used only when the things are happening in the game i think, not how much actually is in the game, and cpu is also mostly used when many things happen on screen from what I know)

But correct me if I'm wrong, because as I said, I'm not good at hardware

Skyrim actually has more creatures than the previous games. What they have fewer of are fantasy monsters. There are tons of animals. I think it was more of an artistic direction there but I am still pissed about the lack of Daedra...hopefully they add some more in new DLCs. Or I will just wait for some gifted modders to create the models, meshes, animations and textures needed to see all the various daedra again.

nvm

I'd have liked there to be more daedra types like scamps, clannfear and ogrim instead of just dremora and atronachs. Creatures like Udyrfrykte's, ogre's and wild werewolves would also be good.

I can't believe that, morrowind and oblivion had all the daedra.
Oblivion had, ogres, minotaurs more underwater creatures etc.

Are you counting draugr, restless draugr, overlord draugr etc. separatly or all together as one?

Nevermind I haven't noticed that you said you didn't count different recolors, I must go to sleep because I can't think right now properly.

More underwater creatures?

I sense there return in a DLC

You forget, the game had to fit on a single DVD for the Xbox 360. That put a very real limit on how much they could put into the game.

Well yeah, there were these red squid people under water can't remember their names.

LMAO

indeed

No he is not. I have made the count before as well and the differen Draugr and Dragons SHOULD count as they look different but I still did not count them and there were more critters in skyrim.
They just are not as drastically different from each other and there is a distinct lack of proper variety being spread out across the gameworld. As it is it is kind of like this in terms of encounters...making this up but basing it off my hundreds of hours of gameplay.

30% animals
20% NPCs/Bandits/Forsworn
20% Undead
20% Monsters(Trolls, Falmer, Spriggans etc etc..) and Other(Dwemer constructs, Daedra and whatever else I have missed)
10% Dragons

Most of what you see are animals undead or bandits. Then the occasional dragon comes along and then there are some monsters. Mostly Trolls but sometimes Spriggans and the like. A lot of things are very rare and some you only encounter in quests like werewolves. I wonder why they did not make werewolves spawn out in the open on occasion at night?

No it didnt. They can and do release multi disc games on consoles. And btw Skyrim uses the new xbox disc format for increased storage space on a standard disc. So it has more space than all the older games ever had. Disc capacity was never an issue.

Quality > Quantity.

Alot of the creatures in skyrim have unique abilities rather than being just a diferent model with higher health and attack, a few come to mind:
> Dragons with their flying and flame/frost breathing.
> Storm and frost atronachs have an special AoE atack and both have damage auras.
> Mudcrabs can burrow and pretend to be rocks.
> Some Draurg can use shouts and the majority of them are on a suspended state until you come near.
> Giants have an AoE atack that will send you to the moon if you are killed by it.
> Some spiders fall from ceilings.

GTA 4 for my pc has only one disc if i remember correctly and it takes about 16gb.

Skyrim's has more mobs then Oblivion but less well used, Oblivion mixed it's monsters up a bit more, Skyrim has very limited number of monsters inside dungeons and that's it's problem... too many draugr only dungeons or too many Falmer/Automaton Dungeons... there is very little variety in the dungeons.

The 360 can handle dual layer dvd's so it can handle up to 8gb. When downloaded on the 360 skyrim rolls in at 3.9gb. So don't go blaming a console for lack of things.

Land Dreugh



Skyrim on multiple disks wouldn't work very well. There's too much re-use of assets, meaning they'd have to be included on each disk. Not to mention where would you divide it up? Exterior world and interiors? Every time you walk in or out of a city you have to switch disks? No, multiple disks wouldn't be practical for Skyrim.

You may think It has less creatures because a lot of them are actually "animals", but I made the count and that's what I got (I counted things like Scamp ad stunted scamp as only one, for instance).

According to UESP:

Morrowind's list:


Oblivion's list:


Skyrim's list:


And to that you have to take into account Skyrim's mobs have better AI and more/better animations.

I prefer quantity with quality.
There is no problem in creating more creatures with unique abilities, it doesn't take much time to script things you mentioned, some things you mentioned aren't even unique abilities, they're just different types of attacking and physics, like dragon breath or giants sending you to moon.