We dont know they are holding the graphics back. We havent seen the PC version.

So basically I buy a clunky, ugly, poor running console port and wait 6 months to a year for modders to make it ok. No Im not fine with that.

Actually my fear doesn't lie with graphical fidelity but optimization

because it may be designed for consoles, and the graphics wont improve much console to pc

Because it's possible (and at least reasonably likely) that the PC version will use the console version's assets directly, rather than having support for better effects and features like hardware tesselation or including higher-quality versions of the textures and models used by the game.

Because they need something to worry about even when we have next to no information about it.

Almost every game is designed for consoles these days, so what. They still look great on pc though. No worries.

That is enough to worry.

I can't think of a AAA game that has set such a precedent.

A lot of them actually don't, and several of the ones that do have serious performance issues (see: Grand Theft Auto 4, which is capable of looking miles better on PC but has horrible performance issues).

Well there is nothing wrong with them making a game for the console as long as they go back and touch up the textures for PCs, since PCs can render more detailed and fine textures than the consoles by far.

This. It will probably look better on PC, although admittedly probably not by much. But then, the screenshots look great anyway so there's no need to worry too much On the upside, it does mean that your PC is more likely to be able to handle it :thumbsup:

I wish some company would actually care to give PC more than an afterthought. Sometimes PC isn't even mentioned when people talk about gaming platforms, which is ironic, since it's the strongest. I realize it because consoles sell more, due to the ease of plug-n-play, but as someone who's grown up a pure PC gamer, this makes me sad

I guess some people are put off that there is no stelar difference in graphics like it was from Morrowind to Oblivion but the fact is this time around there is no significant progress in hardware (at least on the consoles). I guess they didn't have a choice, they can't hold Skyrim until the next generation of consoles. Maybe we get revolutionary graphics in Tes VI: Black Marsh (subtle, I know)

This.

Because a late 2011 title on PC should look miles above what those screens showed. Heck many 2010 games already do. I think Bethesda will make a strong PC effort though. With their fanbase on PC as well as history with TES games and a new engine Im expecting it.

Oooooooh! If only every game company followed GSC or CD Projekt's mentality and developed games primarily for PC to be later ported to consoles...

So now PC players are more worried about graphics than having the game at all. Well if you are so worried that the game is being made for the consoles and being ported to the PC, maybe they should forgoe the PC and not worried about it.
I am sure the extra time and staff could be working on other things thant the PC then. I think we should stop worring about graphics. The game will look amazing on PC.

Just all the bashing that I am reading almost makes me wish the game will not come out on PC since alot of PC people seem so ungreatful.

Now I see why Bethesda keeps everything in the dark. Just for all the ungreatfull talking that goes on. Good thing Bethesda are tough boys and girls and can take the talk and not be bothered by it.

Nothing to worry about. PC will be AWSOME. I will be playing on the 360. So I will not be having the awsomeness that the PC will be getting. I am just happy to be playing the game. I guess some people just need to look at what they really
are complaining about. The game could have been 360 Exclusive. No PC, no PS3. I bet if this happened, PC users wouldn't be complaining about graphics.

Lol that could never happen. A Tes game without PC version is like Mozart played on electric guitar instead of violin.

Ungrateful seems a bit harsh.

I'm not too worried about graphics. The new engine is supposed to appear significantly better on consoles than Oblivion or the Fallout games and they look fine.

I'm just hoping that they will make the UI with an option for 1080p format, so that it won't look terrible on PCs the way Oblivion's and the Fallout games' UI looks.

Yea, but it just so happens that PC UI and Graphics standards don't work quite the same way as consoles do. We have higher level hardware different conditions for UI, so excuse us for actually wanting a game that is actually supposed to also be played on the PC. I personally think the graphics are fine and they are not at all that important to me. But it bothers me that you have this attitude of "You should grateful it's even coming for PC" as if we don't have the right to ask for as good an experience with the game as possible.

it doesn't look bad at all.......and we havn't even seen direct feed high res screenshots yet.

Ungrateful for what, the opportunity to give Bethesda money? You seem to be forgetting that people are paying for this game. Bethesda isn't making it as an act of charity, they're making it as a product, and as a product it's entirely open to criticism from those intending to buy it.

This.


Exactly. as customers, we have the right criticize anything and everything about a product. We are not being forced to buy it, yes, but at the same time, we are not going to give up our money for something we don't want. I spend ~$1300 on PC specifically so i can play games at that higher tier of graphical quality.

Responses in red. Seriously man... don't comment if you don't know what your talking about.

If I was in charge of the game I'd offer an order and a challenge to the UI designers. First, study DarN's UI modifications. Second, I'd want to see a post from DarN in the forums on the first week that says "Nothing for me to do here".