no offense but, if a stealth game can be called fun because you can go into "sneak mode" and move around enemies, then that's pretty boring >.> I'm comparing it to stealth in Thief series, tenchu, splinter cell.

LOL at comparing Oblivions stealth to COD, or any FPS for that matter. I didnt even know craptastic games like that had stealth.

Stealth in Oblivion>the stealth in most game

Can you pick anyone's pocket in most stealth games?
Can you break into any house or building and rob it of its content?
Can you hop onto the roof of a house and sneak jump attack unsuspecting guards below?

Oblivion's stealth is better than most games on the whole.

So lately I've been going online, reading about some of the RPGs available on PS3. I really dig Oblivion for its roleplaying aspect, but I'm curious as to what else is out there.

Came across a game called "Sacred 2". All the reviewers are saying the same thing: it's great for grindng (exploring, fighting, looting, repeat) and it's got an even bigger and more diverse world than Oblivion, and it's a sandbox. But the reviewers also say Sacred's storyline is weak, alot of its quests meaningless excuses to do what you usually do (explore, fight, loot, repeat). That's so 1999!

Sacred 2 sounds great for old-fashioned grinding, but is it worth $49.99?

I'm so hooked on Oblivion. I'm hearing lots of good things about Dragon Age: Origins, plus I looked at some You tube vids of Dragon AGe..it looks alot more mature and detailed than Sacred 2, but I really can't compare it to Oblivion...both games look totally different. So I may get DA to balance out my Oblivion addiction.

Sorry but...


Can you put on disguises in Oblivion? Can you knock people unconscious? Can you enter locations by windows? Can you climb walls? Use special arrows to distract/knock guards?

There are many features unique to stealth-only games that are not present in Oblivion.

Im talking about about games that dont focus on stealth. Being an RPG Oblivion has great stealth.

Oh crap, I misread. I'll... just.. move along then! :whistling:

Its cool, ill take it you were talking about the thief games? Those games are great I just prefer oblivions open world way of implementing things.

Do you only have a PS3? 49 bucks for sacred doesn't sound right. The game used is like 15 bucks for the 360.

I had a level 187 Dryad, before i got bored of the game. Its more like Diablo as oppose to an RPG like Oblivion. Its a stat based Hack and Slash, where if you don't make your character right you will never be able to take your character to the harder platinum and Niob difficulties. Dragon age is part of the faiure that is bioware now. Originally it was suppose to be the spiritual succesor to Baldurs Gate 1 and 2. it ended up being pretty linear and with EA/Biowares new nickel and dime strategy, i cant reccomend anythng but a rental for DA.

The game stores near me must be doing somethign wrong, then. I'd certainly buy it for $15.



Really? Hmm. I'll take that into consideration, thanks. I have heard it's linear, but then so was Baldur's Gate. This doesn't bother me so much, as long as it's GOOD linear. Some games I've played which are linear are great, you see.

Have zero idea what you are talking about here either. Can you move around, sure. But you are highly likely to get caught as well so it's not like you can just sneak and get away with it all the time. But I seem to remember a few threads by you a month or so ago and you were very dissatisfied then. Perhaps this isn't the game for you? You can't compare it. It isn't any of those games.

The original BG games were not linear, the PS2 hack and slash ones were though.

Can you rent games? Is there a rental place near you that carries a lot of games? If so I would recommend just renting all these games. Check out Divinity 2 as well. Its not the prettiest game but its fairly deep, has good voice acting, and once you get into it is pretty good. I would say its the superior Euro RPG out there, oppose to Risen, Two Worlds 1, and things like that.

Sacred is good and fun if there are people you can play it with. The servers are pretty ead as of late.

Yes, I had Baldur's Gate on the PS2, so that makes sense.



All that's available on PS3? If so I'll certainly check 'em out. Yea I could probably figure out some where to rent games near me, I suppose, but it's easier (and free) to just watch lots of YouTube vids. That gives me an idea of what the game is about.



Yea, I forgot about that. So if I can find it for less than $20, and I manage to figure out how to get it to work online, it would be worth it to me. But I'd still be missing my Oblivion character's customization.

Yes, I had Baldur's Gate on the PS2, so that makes sense.



All that's available on PS3? If so I'll certainly check 'em out. Yea I could probably figure out some where to rent games near me, I suppose, but it's easier (and free) to just watch lots of YouTube vids. That gives me an idea of what the game is about.



Yea, I forgot about that. So if I can find it for less than $20, and I manage to figure out how to get it to work online, it would be worth it to me. But I'd still be missing my Oblivion character's customization.

Can you put on disguises in Oblivion? Can you knock people unconscious? Can you enter locations by windows? Can you climb walls? Use special arrows to distract/knock guards? Hide the bodies? (And body detection)

You may want to check out Demon Souls too Renee gade. Its a PS exclusive RPG. Its made by JRPG creators but is more like a western RPG.

The thing that makes Oblivion great is that you can do whatever you want. If you want to sit in front of a waterfall, walk around town, or do the main quest you can do that. The other games they make you do the main quest, Oblivion doesn't do that at all.

I heard demon's soul doesn't really have stealth.
What other rpgs can you think of that has stealth as good, better, or almost as good as oblivion?
And oblivion vs fallout stealth?
thanks

Oblivions stealth is deeper IMO just because there are more people/places to steal from, not to mention a whole quest line based on theft in Oblivion. Other RPGs that have stealth as good as Oblivions or better? There aint much, I can tell you that. Try Two Worlds and DA, but DA's stealth/theft is pretty linear like I stated before. Fallouts stealth isnt bad though, nothing like reverse pick pocketing a live grenade on to an unsuspecting NPC.

and one last thing, is the stealth in oblivion more superior in stealing or assassinating? I mean compared to action-stealth games.
Imo, it has better stealing cuz of going into houses and a lot more items, but tbh, the assassinations fall a bit short. That's why I just killed lucien when he met me >.>

The only problem with stealth killing in Oblivion, is that some NPCs have a high "Responsibility" or whatever it called and can see you commit a murder even if they aren't around. I would say Oblivions stealing is superior but Fallouts assassinating is better. Although there arent many big communities in Fallout, so its hard to kill people without attracting a crowd. Have you not played Fallout?

nope i haven't. not really a huge fan of rpgs. I only got oblivion cuz it was really cheap on the pc.

Do you like it? Did you only get Oblivions for stealth? i think you will like fallout, just wait for New Vegas to drop on the 19th and pick it up.