Why do people think it's so easy using a shotgun in MP?

Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:00 am

I made a little MP mod, that should supposedly (read; supposedly) adjust the damage taken in specific parts of the players. That is, shooting someone in the foot would do about one fourth of the damage you'd get for shooting in the head. (As is, it's about half the damage of the torso.)

Though it's rather non-existent, and I don't know if it even works. As I can't test it alone.

And in my ever so humble opinion, I agree that power should be faster.
The issue with stopping when you get hit is still there, which would pretty much nullify the efforts though.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:55 pm

don't mind what whiners say, if you like to raqe those noobs with shotgun, JUST DO IT! ;D
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:30 am

don't mind what whiners say, if you like to raqe those noobs with shotgun, JUST DO IT! ;D

Haha well said. Somehow owning people with shotguns just feels far more satisfying to me, and if people want to get all butthurt about it then they're taking games too seriously.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:00 am

Give you the dialog from 1 server. Don't screenshooted it cause fraps were off and I don't have policy to fraps everything that I have seen.
In main role I and some player (p):

P: !@#%$!# unit shotgun user !
I: Cause I killed you?
P: No cause you are using shotgun @#$!!@ !@#!
I: And what's with it you can also use it, your level allows you
P: Shut up you !#$!##@ shotgun user.
Maybe I missed some details, but dialogue were like that mostly.

I using shotgun only on some maps, and in some cases. But that guy showed his "Individuality". So...I have nothing to say for his attitude...and say that this dialogue gave me only a smile =)
Don't know what shotgunners did to him. But I'm sure that if it wasn't been shotgun, then he will yell at some other weapon that I used :D
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:44 pm

Shotguns, especially the Marshall, are pretty nubby that is for sure because of the ability to cloak in this game.
my 2 most hated weapon in this game are FY71 and Marshall. you can already know why. the Marshall is very OP, it is a one shot kill weapon. not even the Gauss rifle, the best weapon in Crysis and the supposedly most powerful in Crysis 2, can do a one shot kill. so a high power electromagnetic gun has less damage compare to a normal pump action shotgun?

as for the FY71, i think we've already enough threads on here about how OP that POS is. that guns wins at both close range because of short barrel and long range because of high damage bullet.
the abuse of these 2 weapons, especially the FY, is what made me stop playing for a while.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:45 pm

Shotguns, especially the Marshall, are pretty nubby that is for sure because of the ability to cloak in this game.
my 2 most hated weapon in this game are FY71 and Marshall. you can already know why. the Marshall is very OP, it is a one shot kill weapon. not even the Gauss rifle, the best weapon in Crysis and the supposedly most powerful in Crysis 2, can do a one shot kill. so a high power electromagnetic gun has less damage compare to a normal pump action shotgun?

as for the FY71, i think we've already enough threads on here about how OP that POS is. that guns wins at both close range because of short barrel and long range because of high damage bullet.
the abuse of these 2 weapons, especially the FY, is what made me stop playing for a while.

The marshall is not a one shot one kill weapon, thats why you almost always have to follow up with a couple melee's to get a kill. Often times it takes two direct shots and the along with the EXTREMELY limited range, if anything it's underpowered. I agree with you on the FY71 though.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:54 am

can i admit something here. and i hope i am not the only player that does this alot. i use cloak for 5 seconds when on spawn after death. then i go straight in to armor mode. and it does me wonders. for me i only do that so i am not spotted really fast just incase there is somebody near by. so i cloak for 5 seconds on spawn. then the whole time i am just using armor mode.

i mostly use the scar weapon. or pistol but if i see a k-volt i drop the scar and go for the k-volt. and looks for ammo for the weapon.

also i dont camp but if i see my team in trouble i come runing to give back up.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:14 am

Shotguns, especially the Marshall, are pretty nubby that is for sure because of the ability to cloak in this game.
my 2 most hated weapon in this game are FY71 and Marshall. you can already know why. the Marshall is very OP, it is a one shot kill weapon. not even the Gauss rifle, the best weapon in Crysis and the supposedly most powerful in Crysis 2, can do a one shot kill. so a high power electromagnetic gun has less damage compare to a normal pump action shotgun?

as for the FY71, i think we've already enough threads on here about how OP that POS is. that guns wins at both close range because of short barrel and long range because of high damage bullet.
the abuse of these 2 weapons, especially the FY, is what made me stop playing for a while.

Marshall requires 2 shots when in armor, and 1 shot in power, definitely a chance to miss, and hey, if he had you in his sights dont rage, that means it was game over anyways. Dont talk to me about Gauss either, Marshall is more difficult to handle than the Gauss, Gauss your safe away and have to aim correctly, Marshall you have to do stunts and slide and twitch from left to right worried about the guy that just heard you kill his buddy.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:24 am

Marshall requires 2 shots when in armor, and 1 shot in power, definitely a chance to miss, and hey, if he had you in his sights dont rage, that means it was game over anyways. Dont talk to me about Gauss either, Marshall is more difficult to handle than the Gauss, Gauss your safe away and have to aim correctly, Marshall you have to do stunts and slide and twitch from left to right worried about the guy that just heard you kill his buddy.

Did you just claim that the gauss rifle is easier to use than the shot gun? What? You're either trolling, or just trying to flaunt that you know how to use the weapon well.
The gauss, while being fun, is not easier than a shot gun. The Gauss has bad hit detection, very unforgiving on people who aim poorly, almost no 1-10m viability (unless you run a red dot), and is really cumbersome. The marshal has the same rate of fire, is lightweight and has controlled spread allowing for random flaks to hit you in the dome granting either a 1 shot kill or an easy melee kill afterwards. It does HUGE damage 1-5m and also the cross hair is the size of a penny when you are jumping 30ft in the air while hip firing. I figured when I'm jumping and firing from the hip that the crosshair would be the size of the screen resolution.. Shotguns in general need reworking. The gun is freaking easy to use, especially when you run around in stealth for 90% of the match.

Yeah, literally 90%.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 1:13 am

ok about the 2 shot in armor thing, most people run around without armor on. and the nubby style of most marshall users is:
1 stalk in cloak
2 sprint up
3 light up enemy at point blank range from behind

and see you even said 1 shot in power. what other gun does one shot kill in this game? none except for the marshall, that is why I think it's OP.
and if ur worried about enemies hearing you, again, put on the silencer, energy transfer, cloak enhance and just cloak after the kill and sprint away.
I really hate that kinda playing style.

also the gauss is pretty useless imo. it doesn't kill in oneshot and has a ridiculous rate of fire and no silencer. by the time that u are ready for shot #2, the enemy is already safely behind cover and ur already on radar.
unlike the DSG, where u have silencer and high rate of fire and just go CHEW CHEW 2 shots silenced and ur enemy is dead and the other enemies don't know ur position on radar.
Crytek probably think that the gauss would be OP if it's one shot kill but i think it won't because u have to be level 39 to unlock it and its other disadvantages stated above is enough to balance it out.
amazing how they think a OHK sniper rifle is OP but a OHK shotgun isn't
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:40 am

Marshall requires 2 shots when in armor, and 1 shot in power, definitely a chance to miss, and hey, if he had you in his sights dont rage, that means it was game over anyways. Dont talk to me about Gauss either, Marshall is more difficult to handle than the Gauss, Gauss your safe away and have to aim correctly, Marshall you have to do stunts and slide and twitch from left to right worried about the guy that just heard you kill his buddy.

Did you just claim that the gauss rifle is easier to use than the shot gun? What? You're either trolling, or just trying to flaunt that you know how to use the weapon well.
The gauss, while being fun, is not easier than a shot gun. The Gauss has bad hit detection, very unforgiving on people who aim poorly, almost no 1-10m viability (unless you run a red dot), and is really cumbersome. The marshal has the same rate of fire, is lightweight and has controlled spread allowing for random flaks to hit you in the dome granting either a 1 shot kill or an easy melee kill afterwards. It does HUGE damage 1-5m and also the cross hair is the size of a penny when you are jumping 30ft in the air while hip firing. I figured when I'm jumping and firing from the hip that the crosshair would be the size of the screen resolution.. Shotguns in general need reworking. The gun is freaking easy to use, especially when you run around in stealth for 90% of the match.

Yeah, literally 90%.
yes.............im trolling................really? Marshall is harder to use than the Gauss, i wish it could be an opinion, but it has results to it, let me explain, shotty is close range, if you think taking one guy out is fine.......well your wrong, if your going to run and gun, you need a minimum of 3 souls to take with you, but with the gauss, you can take the whole team out and never die, the marshall is definitely more difficult.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:36 am

Give you the dialog from 1 server. Don't screenshooted it cause fraps were off and I don't have policy to fraps everything that I have seen.
In main role I and some player (p):

P: !@#%$!# unit shotgun user !
I: Cause I killed you?
P: No cause you are using shotgun @#$!!@ !@#!
I: And what's with it you can also use it, your level allows you
P: Shut up you !#$!##@ shotgun user.
Maybe I missed some details, but dialogue were like that mostly.

I using shotgun only on some maps, and in some cases. But that guy showed his "Individuality". So...I have nothing to say for his attitude...and say that this dialogue gave me only a smile =)
Don't know what shotgunners did to him. But I'm sure that if it wasn't been shotgun, then he will yell at some other weapon that I used :D

You are a smartass honestly.

Now, about replying.

Marshall 1 shots people. Remember that.
Assault class is the most straightforward and popular class. People dont see any other classes (correlation). So for them you are a person from another planet which is playing unfair tactics. Is it good or bad? For you - no problem. But for crytek - that is a problem. Marshall should take 2 hits to kill.
FY translates to **** You. Heh, surprised you there, huh?
Shotgun players are usually bad players with a good combination. Just as the Fy is the nub weapon of choice. The shotgun is the best for people who want to pwn at short range.



And as one person said - Marshall - fine. Marshall+cloak=gamebreaker.

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As for the gauss - this thing needs penetration. For instance to make it cause 60% damage trough walls. (3 shots=1 kill).

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CGCD - go to your room and think about what you said. You are a mockery to this thread. Thanks.
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:46 am

Yes, would also like to add that the shotgun is not about "HE GETS MORE KILLZ THAN ME"

Its about "He killed me with 1 shot and i couldnt react" (for snipers its fine btw.)
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:34 am

Yes, would also like to add that the shotgun is not about "HE GETS MORE KILLZ THAN ME"

Its about "He killed me with 1 shot and i couldnt react" (for snipers its fine btw.)


and that the truth about a shotgun 1 shot 1 kill and no time to react. if you think about it. in real life if somebody shot you with a shot gun would you be moving after that?
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:11 am

^yes. that's it. thank you.
extremely annoying when someone sneak up to you and just unload one shot kill but when u have a frigin electromagnetic next gen gauss rifle, u can't kill anyone even at point blank with one shot.

oh so now we're talking real life lmao.
in real life, do you think u'd be moving if someone shot you with a sniper rifle such as the gauss?

also CGCD, i'd like to see your kill stats for both the marshall and the gauss.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:18 pm

^yes. that's it. thank you.
extremely annoying when someone sneak up to you and just unload one shot kill but when u have a frigin electromagnetic next gen gauss rifle, u can't kill anyone even at point blank with one shot.

oh so now we're talking real life lmao.
in real life, do you think u'd be moving if someone shot you with a sniper rifle such as the gauss?

Your a dork, if you allowed anyone to get that close to you you deserve to die, and he deserves the frag, how pointless, i can tell you dont melee much, and i can almost guarantee you any gun can do as much damage as the Marshall with the same time span of 2 shots, and if circumstances are not in your calling you can always punch.

This game is jam packed with perks to aid you against these things, but i bet you just choose aim, armor and stealth enhance all the way down the list.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:05 pm

^yes. that's it. thank you.
extremely annoying when someone sneak up to you and just unload one shot kill but when u have a frigin electromagnetic next gen gauss rifle, u can't kill anyone even at point blank with one shot.

oh so now we're talking real life lmao.
in real life, do you think u'd be moving if someone shot you with a sniper rifle such as the gauss?

Your a dork, if you allowed anyone to get that close to you you deserve to die, and he deserves the frag, how pointless, i can tell you dont melee much, and i can almost guarantee you any gun can do as much damage as the Marshall with the same time span of 2 shots, and if circumstances are not in your calling you can always punch.

This game is jam packed with perks to aid you against these things, but i bet you just choose aim, armor and stealth enhance all the way down the list.

and that was my point i was trying to make earlyer. thank you for the asstiance man. thank you.

can we get back to playing crysis 2 now? or is this going to continue?
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 7:51 am

I always say - if you think it's easy, try it by yourself!
Don't rage on shotgun users, or their tactics. Game is about "adapt or die (adapt to survive)", so if you rage about me using Jackal than get ready for more deaths! You can't tell someone "hey, I don't like how you play, so play differently!". Everyone has their own style and favorite weapon. I could say that snipers are pussies, and shotguners are machos, but it's not like that. Everything is available to everyone to use, so it's your choice how you will prevail.

Stop whining and play! Just enjoy the damn game. Game's all about the FUN. If you don't have fun playing it, than stop playing it!
It seems some people are used to "everyone's a winner" policy. Yeah Right! <_<
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:00 pm

^ Well said majstor. This game is about using all the tools given to you to survive. If that means using cloak with my shotgun, whats wrong with that? At least I'm not hacking.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:59 pm

managed to kicked a guy using the FY in a match today. man that was the best match ever. he was lol'ing the whole time until he found out that his ass isn't on the server anymore :D
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:06 pm

I started this game as most of you. Avid scar user even after most of my unlock scar was my companion. As i progressed i started to play lots and lots of ctr and feline seemed liek the kind of gun that fit the game mode and became my second most used weapon. Till today feline and scar are my most used guns. But i have converted or was always built toward shotgun play.

Most of us have preferences but no gun is better to other. You just have to adapt to all styles of play and play with what ever suits your character and setup best. I am quite disgusted by the loads and loads of bashtalkin abotu which gun is better whoes gameplay style is better use more armor use more stealth etc etc etc... I dont think there is not a a prefered game of playing to the once you choose for yourself.If you dont want to use stealth or armor play classic , if you are good at long range type of aiming use long range guns if you are more of a twitcher use shor range guns.

To add to shotgun discussion. As OP said it had its advantage and disadvantages, you cannot unless using secondary engage in long range combat that leaves you to be a tank run and gun style of play. Its perfect for those who enjoy close combat , getting into faces of enemies but you have to be dam sure you can land the first or second shot because if you dont you are a sitting duck. Since maps are huge in c2 you are bound to be running alot and trying to outflank your enemies whereas with scar / feline / scarab you can engage on the go.

But as i stated that is my prefered gameplay and we all have one , but i think its about time to stop pointing fingers and creating magnificent stories of who is a noob and who isnt for what perk / gun / suit ability one is using.

My rant on my favourite gun :)
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Post » Tue Dec 13, 2011 5:45 am

I always say - if you think it's easy, try it by yourself!
Don't rage on shotgun users, or their tactics. Game is about "adapt or die (adapt to survive)", so if you rage about me using Jackal than get ready for more deaths! You can't tell someone "hey, I don't like how you play, so play differently!". Everyone has their own style and favorite weapon. I could say that snipers are pussies, and shotguners are machos, but it's not like that. Everything is available to everyone to use, so it's your choice how you will prevail.

Stop whining and play! Just enjoy the damn game. Game's all about the FUN. If you don't have fun playing it, than stop playing it!
It seems some people are used to "everyone's a winner" policy. Yeah Right! <_<

you are a 100% right. well said. people always cry when i use cloak and shotgun. like as if they dont hav the ability to use them. lol. ppl hav gone crazy and started to take this game seriously. i play to complete my assessments 100% so i use all the weapons. but i use marshall more often cos i like it :)
there are lots of things people cry about.. cloaking enemies.. like as if they are too blind to see them... some guy said cloaking ruins the game.. if u dont like cloak then by all means quit playin crysis and start playin cod or bf games.. lol. they just crack me up when they rage.
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 5:33 pm

If you can't beat em, join 'em :P
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:41 pm

I did this today with the FY71 and brought everyone to their knees............ THEIR KNEES!!!!!!
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Post » Mon Dec 12, 2011 9:06 pm

Some of you guys keep forgetting one of the key factors in the easy/cheapness of the shotguns is the overpowered cloak, meaning the getting close part is hardly an issue at all, lining everything up for a kill. Is that hard to understand? Just look at videos of cloaking shotgunners, and you will see it's so simple, it's almost like a babies game.

You can continue using any weapon you like by all means. Geez, just don't get hurt youselves when people point out the truth of it. Continue using it just don't act like cloak and shotgun to the back is the most skillful thing.

Do some of you people also not realize that this game has become a hell of a lot more COD like since Crysis 1/Wars, a hell of a lot, with features amongst many obvious ones, such as the new cloak being a big part of pushing it that direction of style and play, so please don't go telling us to go to COD or BF, it's so goddam ironic.
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