I have been reading the forums for a while and there are a lot of people who think that Obsidian should take over the fallout franchise, and that they are the rightful owners of the series.

Now I am not an expert on the subject area so don't go flaming me but why do people want this to happen? I mean, I understand those who are fans of the original two games but what about those who like Fallout New Vegas? Without Bethesda's game engine or resources, I don't think Obsidian would be able to replicate a world that's as rich and detailed (Don't get me wrong, Obsidian story writing is some of the best in the industry). But, if they took over full control of the whole production of the game, it would most likely go back to the original set-up, which would be the player viewing their character from above, not as much as an open world, no more first person.

And even if they tried to follow the games up in the same style of fallout 3/ new vegas, then they still will need to build the engine, the game world, everything in it, do you think they will be able to make the games as rich as they did New Vegas? (where a lot of the work was already done for them).

I am not taking sides, I am just very interested in peoples opinions on this subject, taking into consideration what I have said. I look forward to reading your replies.

Because Obsidian "gets" Fallout, knows how to handle the setting and has its strengths in RPG mechanics, writing and player impact on the story and gameworld.

Moving away from sandbox FPS style would be a blessing to the Fallout series -- mostly because non-sandbox offers possibilities for far greater scope and variety than a sandbox, and with topdown view the RPG mechanics (characterskill over playerskill with better balance) are more allowed to shine through. Obsidian have their own engine to build the game for, so there's nothing really hindering them from making it as rich an experience as New Vegas -- and even richer if they were given more time to do it. Everything that differentiates Fallout from TES style gameplay (the sandbox FPS stuff) would be a welcome change in my opinion.

And in general, the current gaming market is bloated with FPS games and half decent at best RPG's so offering something at least remotely different would be more than welcome.

...in a nutshell.

And to expand a bit... there are numerous possibilities to make the game more appealing to everyone. Consider this video of an early techdemo (a would-be Fallout game had Troika gotten the rights for Fallout before Bethesda -- offering both ISO view and FP perspective): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzYmQyHl2bc And that was years ago (around 2005 or thereabouts), so as the technology has evolved, surely there are possibilities to handle something like that and expand it greatly now.

Isn't it made up of quite a lot of the people who made the original Fallouts?
If so then this is a good reason why they should be in control since they know whats happened before and howw to make the future fit without making up too much random stuff.

It is indeed made of those people, well not many but few. And now they even have the original creator of Fallout (Tim Cain) aboard.

Because Bethesda has no interest in differentiating Fallout and the Elder Scrolls which were once radically different series and should be so again. I want a Fallout game. Not a Fallout themed Elder Scrolls game first and foremost designed to sell to Bethesda fans.

I am a fan of FO 1 & 2 and FOT:BOS and I had my doubts about FO3 but I found I liked the direction Bethesda took the game play. As for a Troika type engine I would not go there with the main series if a new Fallout Tactics was put out then yes use that type of engine and go non-sandbox (that I would love to play). As for Obsidian taking over the Fallouts that would be great as long as Bethesda gave them more time to work on the games. Will Bethesda give up the Fallout franchise, not a hope on hell. Bethesda should stick to making TES and making better engines and contract out the Fallout series to Obsidian using the Bethesda engines.

The only way Obsidian will get another Fallout is if Bethesda will allow it... which they will because new vegas sold over 5-6+ million copies and as long at it is and can only be published by Bethesda they should have access to id's engine, Bethesda game assets from TESV/FO4, talent and resources. From which they should be able to great another fantastic Fallout based on FO4.

I don't think Bethesda would or should give them full reigns and the numbered titles but under these conditions they would probably do an admirable job... even better if Bethesda bought them outright. However they couldn't and wouldn't be able to make Fallout games alone from scratch... that's for sure.

But even if that happened this topdown talk and Alpha Protocol scaremongering is nonsense and downright insulting... they were a small studio making two games at the time and Sega the publisher gave them little money and a borderline [censored] ship date to meet. It's not the same thing as being handed one of the biggest franchises in the world with a built-in audience... from which they'd get the resources and time they need to burn your house down with lemons.

Overall I think Obsidian did a better job, and I think it would be better for the franchise if one company ran with it. Bethesda owns the franchise and the Creation engine (what I’ve seen of it looks good), and could Obsidian make a Fallout from scratch, well yes, but would they have to, no, with the contract would come the new engine. As for the making of lemons, as long a Bethesda gave them reasonable deadlines, no, I believe Obsidian would make superior Fallouts.

But all this talk is moot because it will not happen.

Obsidian probably would make better Fallouts if ZeniMax/Bethesda bought them and they became the dedicated Fallout studio and they moved all of the key Fallout 3 staff out to California and merged all the Fallout people into one cohesive studio. On a side note I wish ZeniMax would just go ahead and change their name to Bethesda Game Publishing as ZeniMax sounds like a tampon company.

It could be worse they could be called I Pad

Ha. Indeed.

From a business sense I can't figure out why they haven't bought out Obsidian already... they should do so before they become too big to do so and start publishing games themselves. It's like if EA had just bought Valve before Steam blew up they wouldn't be fumbling around with this origin bull-[censored] now and we'd have almost certainly have had several more Half-Life games by now. Both EA and Ubisoft could have bought Rockstar Games for a song from TTWO before they could afford to stand on their own and kill off a rival and they'd have been laughing all the way to the bank and ZeniMax should do the same. Sell off some turd studios first if they have to.

Sorry, no insult was intended. I greatly respect Obsidian and play their games all the time. Just a warning though, as soon as fallout 4 is announced and all the elder scrolls/ fallout 3 fans come pouring into the fallout forums, your insulted meter is going to explode

Noted :wink_smile:: I get a little pissed about Alpha Protocol because it's such a diamond in the rough and it's constantly being used to beat them over the head half to death with. If only Sega had given them another year Sega could finally have found another hit franchise other than well... sonic.

I forgot thats gonna happen :cryvaultboy:
I think I'll sleep in CD if the quests start becoming repeatitive :ahhh:

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