Relax. It would be nice to put an arrow through some of the kids in this game because they're all snobby little brats. Doesn't mean I'm going to go on a rampage in my neighborhood.

On a slightly off-topic note, Modern Warfare 3 has a scene where a child is killed in a toxic gas explosion. Seems they did it in such a way as to tip-toe around the AO rating.

I can't even bring myself to harvest the Little Sisters in Bioshock. Even though doing so would make my character "stronger", I just can't do it. (plus, you can't get the best ending if you harvest even one) The game "rewards" you for harvesting them by giving you more ADAM (you use it to buy new powers and abilities). If you save them, you get less ADAM on the spot, but you'll get extra rewards every time you save X amount of Little Sisters. Thing is, there are way more powers and abilities than you can even equip at once anyway, so getting less ADAM isn't really a problem (unless you're playing on harder difficulties, but I haven't tried).

That being said... I think the reason people don't like immortal kids, specifically in games where you can choose to be a serial killer, has more to do with the fact that you can't kill them "because it's wrong". Unlike in Bioshock, where you choose to either save them or kill them, based on your own judgment, and the game "rewards" you based on your choices. At least I hope that's all there is to it.



Bioshock says hello. It's only rated M.

Because of the realism factor. Everyone should be mortal in their mind. Immortality svcks in RPGs, unless you have a Revive spell.

because you can't do it in the real world. I an't just go around killing everyone I don't like in the real world, so if I hate someone in a game, I recognize that I have the ability to kill them with no real consequences, so I do.

Make sense?

Bioshock added in to Harvest or Save the Little Sisters and that involves children.

This is my issue as a thief, I wondered into a home. A child was staring at me. I mean it was late at night 3am and their parents were asleep. Problem is you cannot have a witness system, if your witnesses are immortal insomniacs. I mean come on. Death is a part of life. Child or not.

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On the subject, while the kids are annoying, I'd be happy to just have a way to shut them up rather than have a couple blindly follow me around town spouting crap about how hard it is to sell fruits with her damn mother. Killing a child, even in game, is just despicable.

Nelkir needs to shut up. Permanently.

they look dumb, they have annoying voice acting, and they always get in my way!

I mean...

How can one believe that? You're really suggesting that video game kids are more annoying than living ones? I mean you said "it would be nice" to kill one of them. Why? What would be "nice" about it?

In the game you can just run by them and ignore them. Their dialogue is more annoying than the guards, etc?

For people who say bad things happen to kids in real life...do you want the option to perform ALL the bad things that happen to kids? That's real too.

The issue isn't "it's just a game." It's what fantasies do the player have and what do they want to act out. The fact that it's a virtual world is irrelevant, IMO.

I wanted to kill those 2 kids in the dragonreach in whiterun. They were brats. Well i joined the stormcloaks and took over whiterun. Now they live in a cellar in the blue palace.

They could fix that by simply having them actually go to sleep. That's the best compromise.

Why ? Four reasons.

- Arbitrarily immortal characters are annoying by concept alone. If you're going to aim for freedom of action, why put immortality in play ?
- It's fun to kill things in a game. You obviously can't nor should do it in real life. It's one of the pleasure of a game to allow you to do what you can't IRL.
- Children are very, very, very often extremely annoying in most of the game and fictions. Making them immortal is just like scratching an itch and taunting you.
- More than anything, it's the hypocrisy. Hypocrisy like the huge one you display in your sanctimonious and self-righteous bullcrap. 90 % of all the games are about killing foes. In the REGULAR COURSE of the game, you kill TONS of people. Roasting them alive, using them as living pincushion, capturing their sould and animating their remains. All this seems fair game and fun in a game. But you do this to a sprite with the appearance of a kid, and suddendly the dumb moral guardians start screeching. Annoying and hypocrital as hell.

Because its my game and I should be able to kill whoever I want.

I hope you understand that just because I want to do something in a game doesn't mean I want to do it in the real world, much like how my game morals don't reflect my real-life morals. I don't hate kids, and I'd never want to kill one in real life (not without an exceptional reason, anyways). Now if I can kill old men, women, and every other breathing thing in Skyrim, why not kids? What, just because they're young?

If you don't like killing kids, don't. The fact that the choice has been removed in a game whose strength is supposed to be choice is pretty lame.

I also love how the OP seems fine with the rest of the wholesale slaughter that takes place in the game. Won't someone think of the poor children (read: attention [censored] parents)!

LoL

If I told you the food you eat was a child, would you stop eating?
This is a game folks, games are made of zeros, and ones. Smashing one zero, into another one does not mean you are psycho.

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I always thought the reason people wanted to kill kids was because the game let's you do whatever you want. That's the appeal of the elder scrolls. I understand why you can't kill kids(but I don't understand why people want to). I mean if you could kill kids(still don't know why you would) then Fox News would come out of nowhere and say some stupid **** about the game that is not true because they are evil. I mean really, they are evil.

How is killing children any less inhumane than killing an advlt... Real life or video game ? If you're disturbed for thinking about killing kids, but not innocent mothers and fathers, you are the disturbed one. Nice try on trying to look like a decent person and bash others, but you are more foolish than any one else here. You are so misinformed and naive, it makes me feel sorry for anyone that is part of your real life. So judgemental, its sickening.

I think it's the only thing that is relevant. I've also laughed as I used Unrelenting Force to toss my wife around the room after she told me she didn't have any food to give me. Should my real wife save the trouble and just go to a battered wives shelter now? When GTA3 came out, tons of people never even bothered with the campaign, but just went on shooting sprees to see how long they could live. Haven't really noticed an uptick in car thefts and hoker deaths since then, have you?

Sorry, I think this psychobabble that there's a link between game violence and real violence, or that how a player acts in a virtual environment gives you a look into their soul, is pure rubbish. Myself and millions of others played Doom growing up - two kids who played shot up a school, and now we have to hear this crap every time there's violence in a video game, or someone talks about wishing they could do something violent in a video game. They're games. That's all.

its just a game for crying out loud.

if you are not happy for those that wants to kill kids, i recomend you to stop playing this game, or any other game, because its full of violence anyway.

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It's funny how all these people who say "it's just a game" turn their tail and run for the first rock, so they can throw it at people who mention sixuality in games.

ROFL way to compare [censored] your mom and killing random little annoying [censored]-bag on the street.

are you playing real life in skyrim ?