Why Skyrim? (Partie Deux)

Post » Tue May 17, 2011 7:37 am

I think Skyrim would be cool, honestly. On a side note, What is this giant stompy bot you speak of?!
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 3:40 am

I'd rather not have oblivion planes again, we had a whole game+expansion revolving around the deadra. Sure deadra are cool, and better than all the other gods, but I'd rather the next game focus more on the lore of the individual province.





i completly agree i mean the whole oblivion wuest was cool and all but i think it would be beter for it to focus on the provence i think elswyer black marsh or hamerfall it would be nice to if we could get the armors from oblivion and morrowind in the new game to at like exotic armor shops being able to join a pirate facton with biger ships and crew and a sharing mode so you can equip armor on your crew would be cool also a natonal/impirial navy with the same princibles and a free sail similar to regular movment an some wepons able to stab also randomle depeding on the wepon not like morrowind like when ip runing forward stabing with a 2 handed mace wich is dumn but yah a questline based on the province more definetly hamerfall elswyr skyrim or blackmarsh and to take something from morroblivion a mod it would be nice on the new game if we had oblivion to be able to go to oblivion and to the oblivion quests and questline but with the new interface and stuff yah i hope you guys liked what i had to say
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 2:08 pm

@N'wah

Numidium. I haven't played enough Daggerfall to go in depth about it, but I can tell you that it served as an inspiration for the Dagoth Ur's Akulakhan.

Edit: Here's a UESP article about it:http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Numidium
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 11:26 am

i completly agree i mean the whole oblivion wuest was cool and all but i think it would be beter for it to focus on the provence i think elswyer black marsh or hamerfall it would be nice to if we could get the armors from oblivion and morrowind in the new game to at like exotic armor shops being able to join a pirate facton with biger ships and crew and a sharing mode so you can equip armor on your crew would be cool also a natonal/impirial navy with the same princibles and a free sail similar to regular movment an some wepons able to stab also randomle depeding on the wepon not like morrowind like when ip runing forward stabing with a 2 handed mace wich is dumn but yah a questline based on the province more definetly hamerfall elswyr skyrim or blackmarsh and to take something from morroblivion a mod it would be nice on the new game if we had oblivion to be able to go to oblivion and to the oblivion quests and questline but with the new interface and stuff yah i hope you guys liked what i had to say


Isn't tamriel technically the daedric realm of Lorkhan?
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 9:36 am

Ah, interesting. I have not played Daggerfall
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 2:22 pm

On a side note, What is this giant stompy bot you speak of?!

The Numidium/Walk Brass/Giant Stompy Bot. It's the big robot the dwemer made, and absorbed themselves into it during the War of the First Council. So yeah, the dwemer disappearance isn't really a mystery anymore, but it's not common knowledge.

The bigger question is why is there only 1 dwemer left when everyone else, even the ones in Hammerfell, were absorbed into the Numidium?
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 6:29 am

Isn't tamriel technically the daedric realm of Lorkhan?

According to Mankar it is, but he also gets other things wrong while he's speaking. He's a fanatic that believes having the world being destroyed is a good thing, and that torturing his loyal servants is good. So you can't exactly listen to everything he has to say.

Other beliefs say that Lorkhan convinced the gods to create the mortal realm of Mundus, and then that drained their power and they were left weakened, which is an explanation as to why all of them wouldn't jump down and save everybody all the time.

Other hypotheses range from Lorkhan being a Daedra, to him tricking the Nine Divines into making the Mortal Realm, to him giving all of his power to create the realm.

From the elven viewpoint, Lorkhan tricked the lesser spirits (The Ehlnofey) into becoming mortal, which eventually became the Aldmer, which became all of the other elves. While men believe Lorkhan created them from nothing, and think he doesn't deserve the bad rep he's gotten.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 8:20 am

The bigger question is why is there only 1 dwemer left when everyone else, even the ones in Hammerfell, were absorbed into the Numidium?

Someone had to press the ON button.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 12:38 am

Isn't tamriel technically the daedric realm of Lorkhan?

No, not technically. Technically, Lorkhan isn't daedroth.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 5:48 am

According to Mankar it is

People take Mankar far too seriously. He's a madman trying to bring about the end of the world. (I know it's deeper than that, but still)
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 4:33 am


The bigger question is why is there only 1 dwemer left when everyone else, even the ones in Hammerfell, were absorbed into the Numidium?

Maybe cause he opposed the idea of... the lorkhan heart thing(Kinda forgot most of the story). I hope he wasn't the LAST dwarf, that would kinda svck. Dwarf would make a lovely racial addition.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 2:37 am

It was mostly rhetorical, but sure. However, I am against adding dwemer
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 2:04 pm

Maybe cause he opposed the idea of... the lorkhan heart thing(Kinda forgot most of the story). I hope he wasn't the LAST dwarf, that would kinda svck. Dwarf would make a lovely racial addition.


well he's dead anyway with the whole Infernal City ordeal.
plus i killed him on every playthrough :shrug:
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 11:18 am

well he's dead anyway with the whole Infernal City ordeal.
plus i killed him on every playthrough :shrug:


Did it really say in the book that he died?
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 8:21 am

I think the book insinuates that pretty much everyone died, but no, it didn't literally say that the dwarf died.
Having dwarves as a playable race is pretty much excluded though, the lore just doesn't support it. The most likely occasion being that they are included in a prequel set in ancient times, which in my opinion could be something they have in mind for a spin-off title, but not the main series.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 10:59 am

Did it really say in the book that he died?

No. He's actually one of the more likely ones to have escaped from Vvardenfell in all the speculation. What with being such good friends with one of the most powerful/oldest/wisest/nicest (in a way) people alive.

But no, I don't want a "Dwarf" race. Especially if it's cliché'd. The Dwemer are supposed to be a long lost hidden race. It's one of the mysteries of Nirn, like Akavir. We should stay well away from blatant details. I like only being able to speculate about why they dsappeared, for example. It would also be silly if all of a sudden, Dwemer started appearing for no reason.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 4:34 pm

He's only a dwarf to giants. The dwemer were about as tall as the altmer, or at least as tall as the chimer.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 2:11 pm

He's only a dwarf to giants. The dwemer were about as tall as the altmer, or at least as tall as the chimer.

I always felt they where closer related to the Bosmer, and where actually quite short (though, not typical Dwarf short). It's the feel I get from thier statues, anyway. Unless they're just chubby. Never really looked at a Dwarven Spectre, either.

Anyway, I'm fine as long as they don't change them to short, bearded, scottish men. It's just a small detail I doubt anyone really cares about.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 1:13 am

Anyway, I'm fine as long as they don't change them to short, bearded, scottish men. It's just a small detail I doubt anyone really cares about.

I don't think Bethesda would ever stoop that low. Their armor in Oblivion, whilst a far cry from the salvaged robotics of Morrowind, was surprisingly same beards and everything.

Well okay, the helmet on Oblivion's Dwarven armor made you look like a steam locomotive. I guess there's always room for improvement.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 4:44 pm

This topic really holds no ground, as it is pure speculation. Wasn't Cyrodiil supposed to be a jungle, but it turned into a forest? I'm guessing not a lot of people that play TES live in jungles, and they'd want to see something new, not something that's just 5 miles away. With everyone believing that Skyrim isn't all snow, you know Beth is just going to have to make it the North Pole. Minus the melting. :shifty:
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 8:08 am

What I don't get is when somebody comes on here and says "Itz going to be all snoez", everybody tries to correct them and tell them "It's not going to be that bad, Skyrim isn't all snow". I mean I know it's not going to be all snow, but it is going to be a great deal of snow, and ice, and a cold climate in general.

I think we would be better off defending the fact that a snowy northern province could really be awesome. I mean I think so at least. The atmosphere they could create with that really has a chance of being amazing. Just think about the blizzards, harsh winds, the wildlife, glaciers, some of the highest peaks in Tamriel, the sea of ghosts, rivers covered with ice, ice caves. And I know there is so much more that I can't even think of right now.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 2:28 pm

This topic really holds no ground, as it is pure speculation. Wasn't Cyrodiil supposed to be a jungle, but it turned into a forest? I'm guessing not a lot of people that play TES live in jungles, and they'd want to see something new, not something that's just 5 miles away. With everyone believing that Skyrim isn't all snow, you know Beth is just going to have to make it the North Pole. Minus the melting. :shifty:


What I don't get is when somebody comes on here and says "Itz going to be all snoez", everybody tries to correct them and tell them "It's not going to be that bad, Skyrim isn't all snow". I mean I know it's not going to be all snow, but it is going to be a great deal of snow, and ice, and a cold climate in general.

I think we would be better off defending the fact that a snowy northern province could really be awesome. I mean I think so at least. The atmosphere they could create with that really has a chance of being amazing. Just think about the blizzards, harsh winds, the wildlife, glaciers, some of the highest peaks in Tamriel, the sea of ghosts, rivers covered with ice, ice caves. And I know there is so much more that I can't even think of right now.


Bethesda is well aware of the fan backlash the decision to turn Cyrodiil from a dense jungle to a generic fantasy setting caused, they wouldn't do it again. They'd have to have lost all creativity they ever had to do that again, honestly.

As for us not knowing for sure it wont be all snow, again, Bethesda would have had to have lost all the creativity they had in Morrowind to do that. Just like Alaska isn't all snow, Skyrim isn't going to be all snow.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 4:29 pm

well they could do like morrowind where the edges are more coastline swamp type and the middle is more of dessert around a giant volcano type only this time more temperate outside with freezing cold north and middle...... and honestly you were all enthralled with the giant mushrooms.... if you want another thing that basically counts as a tree just stick up giant ice pillars.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 3:13 am

Bethesda is well aware of the fan backlash the decision to turn Cyrodiil from a dense jungle to a generic fantasy setting caused, they wouldn't do it again. They'd have to have lost all creativity they ever had to do that again, honestly.

As for us not knowing for sure it wont be all snow, again, Bethesda would have had to have lost all the creativity they had in Morrowind to do that. Just like Alaska isn't all snow, Skyrim isn't going to be all snow.


Um... what backlash? You mean some of the people on these forums being displeased with it? I've yet to see Bethesda mention anything about that.

In my post I stated that I was well aware that it wasn't going to be just snow, but I think it's really just beating around the bush when we use this as a sole argument. Like somebody said before, "The reason Skyrim is going to be a good province is because it won't be all snow?"

Skyrim is the home of the Nords, it's pretty notorious for being pretty cold and snowy, and I also accept the fact that there's going to be more to it than that. But on the other hand, I really think there is a lot of cool and interesting stuff they can do with the snowy regions.
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Post » Tue May 17, 2011 5:25 am

Um... what backlash? You mean some of the people on these forums being displeased with it? I've yet to see Bethesda mention anything about that.


Some? It's in nearly every "Why Oblivion is worse than Morrowind" argument I've ever seen here. And Bethesda is well aware of the complaints people had with Oblivion. Todd Howard has mentioned them before in the context of what they want to do in the next TES, such as how the game needs more of the culture that Oblivion sorely needed. It's obvious they know twisting lore like that left a bad taste in the mouths of their fans.

If you really think they haven't learned their lesson, then get ready for Skyrim to be an arid desert and they only excuse we'll be given is that some random god wanted to melt all the snow like how one removed all the jungles of Cyrodiill.
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