Why not change it to more realistic ragdolls?

Do you have an example of a realistic ragdoll, and an example of an unrealistic one from the gameplay demos for comparison?

This is Nirn, not Earth. We don't know all of their laws of physics. Maybe this is normal there.

I just checked in at Loving It

Like the mile high statue of Arthur Dent only help up my "art".

Realistic:

Pretty much any havok ragdoll game.

Unrealistic:

The gameplay demo when the dragon picks up the enemy and drops him. He falls at like 2 feet per hour.

Havok is a terrible physics engine. Its just the cheap alternative.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uerCl8evmdU
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FigandbbMLg

Aww I loved sword spinning though! It was fun

The ragdoll physics have been fixed it's just that Giants are filled with helium.

Did you miss that he's a giant as was taken far into the air?

Hope that things I drop don't fall through the floor! :facepalm:

I'll never understand why Bethesda has stuck with Havok. Maybe it's easier on hardware or something?


Personally, I find the goofy unrealistic physics pretty charming, though in that unintentionally funny sort of way, but that better services Fallout than The Elder Scrolls.

Havok is not faulty. You can tweak physics. They just set it to behave like this.

It is quite good on hardware. Better than BS like physX.


alternative to what?

http://www.havok.com/index.php?page=available-games&hl=en_US

Havok is basically Reactor.

And the physics in those games svcked.

TES5 needs faster falling speed for sure.
Previous titles looked horrible when body just floated slowly towards ground

lol as if anyone here actually believes you've played all of them :rolleyes:

Yes.

Thank the 360 hardware for not being able support a proper physics engine.

The giant falling down only looked wrong because he didn't care that he was falling down, he was just chillaxing and watching the world go by, and his body stayed too upright for it to look like he was already dead. In terms of acceleration and so on they did it perfectly. Don't forget that your viewpoint is from below him, and that perspective alters the apparent motion.

That second one happened to me, once. It was awesome.

would you consider Reactor phsyics in 3ds max a proper physics engine?

Then Euphoria a great animation system?

Well, then I'm willing to live with that, since it's a legitimate justification. What I wouldn't have liked, if it was like a promotional thing. Sort of like how Nvidia fakes "Optimizing" for their hardware, for a little logo on the box.

Not going to lie, i have little-no experience with Reactor. I HAVE however used havok 4, and it is a very simple system, even though i havnt gone deep into that either.

I mostly just modeled and textured myself. Animation was something i did if i got around to it, but i never got the hang of it. To this date i still cant make a consistent stair walking animation.

tbh I don't know much about physics engines either. I have used Reactor and Havok as seen in Beth games, and tinkered with HB and physX, but tbh I can't see much wrong with the what havok...6? I think, has in terms of it equivalent in Reactor. It's pretty close.

For those that don't know, reactor is the engine in Max, which is like where most studios author most of their game content with.

I think people are digging at it while not even knowing of a viable alternative or better solution. Let alone knowing what Havok is actually is capable of.

If you use Biped, you can place footprint markers... then go from there.

I haven't tried on stairs though.. I suppose in some games, it doesn't matter as the Foot IK is there and they just use the regular run or walk anims.