Why to take sides with the Ulfric ... : V - Skyrim

» Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:02 pm

Heres your proof, actions speak louder than words. Talk to the Mer and Beast races in Windhelm and theres your proof. Ulfric is trash. Deal with it.

If you talk to an Altmer that lives in the city, she states that if the Dunmer try and be hardworking like everyone else, they would be accepted. That's coming from an ALTMER. Also, the only racist ones in the city are the two drunks.

» Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:24 pm

Right but she still treats her workers better then the silver-bloods from what we see, again I'm not saying she is good because she clearly isn't but she isn't as bad as the Silver-bloods.

No she doesn't. Talk to the guy in her brewery. He tells you she kills a man for looking at her wrong and that you'll find his body in the lake.

» Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:21 pm

Racist, bigoted, prejudice. All means that lead to the same end. Hes scum.

Fine. I was trying to help you.

» Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:53 pm

1) You illegally crossed the border into Skyrim during times of war, They didn't take any chances.

I think that there should be no borders and border related law enforcement and people should be free to come and go as they please. Even in the real world.

» Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:39 am

It doesn't change the fact that he's a divine.

And what? A baby rabbit is going to die if you worship talos in your home for a time until the time is right, and a organized counterattack could drive out the Thalmor, then releasing all places from the concordat?
Thinking for the nords seem to be TOO HARD.

» Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:10 am

I didn't side with Ulfric because I didn't like his attitude. The civil war questline wasn't terribly important to me.

» Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:28 pm

No she doesn't. Talk to the guy in her brewery. He tells you she kills a man for looking at her wrong and that you'll find his body in the lake.

they both are equally horrible, cant we just say that?

» Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:35 pm

Innocent people like the Thief

Ever wondered why Lokir wanted to steal a horse and be 'halfway to Hammerfell ?

The Imperials knew his name so maybe he'd committed other crimes.

Ulfric offers people freedom to workship Ulfric...

Fixed that for you :tongue:

He challenged the current High King in fair one-on-one combat and won.

Ulfric knew he couldn't lose, because of the Thu'um - that's a fair fight ? :ermm:

» Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:21 pm

they both are equally horrible, cant we just say that?

People like to discuss these things. Don't like it? Don't read them. No one is making you read these threads.

» Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:21 am

If you talk to an Altmer that lives in the city, she states that if the Dunmer try and be hardworking like everyone else, they would be accepted. That's coming from an ALTMER. Also, the only racist ones in the city are the two drunks.

Conversely, there are a bunch of hard-working Argonians at the docks who are treated as total scum and get paid far less than Nord workers. Brunwulf Free-Winter also speaks how Ulfric doesn't give a [censored] about non-Nords being harassed by bandits on the road.

Ulfric is either a Nord supremacist bigot or he is a really, really crappy Jarl that doesn't know what's going on in his city.

» Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:21 am

they both are equally horrible, cant we just say that?

I agree with you. I just don't buy that maven is so much better.

» Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:38 pm

Conversely, there are a bunch of hard-working Argonians at the docks who are treated as total scum and get paid far less than Nord workers. Brunwulf Free-Winter also speaks how Ulfric doesn't give a [censored] about non-Nords being harassed by bandits on the road.

Ulfric is either a Nord supremacist bigot or he is a really, really crappy Jarl that doesn't know what's going on in his city.

They openly brag about stealing from the shipments.

» Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:16 pm

Conversely, there are a bunch of hard-working Argonians at the docks who are treated as total scum and get paid far less than Nord workers. Brunwulf Free-Winter also speaks how Ulfric doesn't give a [censored] about non-Nords being harassed by bandits on the road.

Ulfric is either a Nord supremacist bigot or he is a really, really crappy Jarl that doesn't know what's going on in his city.

» Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:15 pm

They openly brag about stealing from the shipments.

Would you be inclined to steal from someone who treated you well?

Would you care about stealing from someone who treated you poorly?

» Tue Apr 02, 2013 9:44 pm

Ulfric knew he couldn't lose, because of the Thu'um - that's a fair fight ? :ermm:

As far as I know, this isn't why he used the Thu'um. He could've taken Torygg. He used the Thu'um to make a statement. What is the statement? I have no idea, ask a Stormcloak supporter.

» Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:31 am

They openly brag about stealing from the shipments.

Evil breeds evil. Maybe if the Nords actually paid the Argonians what they deserve, they wouldn't have to rely on stealing from shipments. And "they" brings to my mind only one Argonian.

» Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:39 pm

They openly brag about stealing from the shipments.

Because attaking and killing your own people for "the cause" is so right, like that filthy lizards stealing some crap to make their lives less miserable