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So to be manly is to beat the [censored] out of someone for annoying you?

I'll take being mature over being manly every day of the week.

Its because the OP's 19 and he keeps referring the old west and the 50's isn't it.

I've never associated any of that with "men" in particular. As for why it's disappearing, probably because it gradually requires less active work to live. Children can be, and often are, raised by the television/computer for hours at a time. Many people don't need to build their own houses, or protect their children from the dangerous wilderness of the suburban backyard. It creates a passive sense of entitlement and irresponsibility the less effort needed to get by. While life getting easier isn't a bad thing in itself, people have always been prone to the easy way out and the negative aspects of any lifestyle are always easier to see than the positive. Exchange "I give up because it's hard" with "why bother when I can make slaves do it." The times may be different now, because the times are always becoming different, but it doesn't mean worse.

As far as more stereotypical aspects of manliness, well, people complain about them too. I'm still waiting for them to actually complain a reason that it matters or is at all harmful beyond fear of change. (P.S. fear is unmanly you guys)

I was manly enough to say that I cook. That's right I impressed a few girls :foodndrink:




Damn typo.

I'm going to have to go with this, I think.

Really, if we were to actually to get to the bottom of this, we'd have to first delineate just what specific characteristics we're talking about when we say "manly." Having accomplished that, we'd then have to somehow look at just how well your average men from decades past actually fit that bill. Sure, you watch some John Wayne, and maybe you think that was some sort of accurate cross-section of your average male at the time. But I'd wonder just how accurate that assumption would be.

Sure, there's plenty of men out there that don't live up to classical standards of what everyone could likely agree would constitute a "real man." (Responsibility, integrity, providing for your family - however that manifests, standing up for yourself and others, etc.) But I'd wager that's always been the case. There were probably plenty of cavemen, even, who would likely fit that bill of being "less than a man." As far as what percentage of men today actually qualify as "men," compared to past generations - that's something that would have to rely on something more than simply anecdotal evidence.

Eh, the feminine men will all die out, while the manly men will eat steak.

Raw.

Anyway, Gene Kelly was the epitomy of manly, so if we all act like he did, and learn ballet, we'll be the most manliest of all!

I wasn't actually directing that at you, for fear of being seen as rude I won't name names.

Subjective

No real proof men are becoming feminine

Provide a study or something that supports this then we'll talk

Just yesterday, I beat up a guy because he was looking at my girl funny. Then, I proceeded to make a house out of rocks and wood using only my bare hands. My beard is over two feet long. Yeah, I had fears once, but I beat them to a pulp after hitting puberty. I was hungry for a snack, so I took down a tiger with my bare hands. As I ripped its head off Kratos style, I drank its blood, because that's what men do. Screw civilized life. When I don't like someone, I shoot them in the head and rip their arms off. I colonized the moon by killing all its native inhabitants. Who needs to talk to people. I spit, I drink, I smoke, and I don't bathe because that's how manly men are. I don't vote and I don't read, because I'M A MAN! This is how real manly men act. YEAH!!!!!!!! TESTOSTERONE!!!!!!!!! ROID RAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Is that what you mean by manly?

Mmmmmm. Raw steak raw meat in general is amazing.

Thats exactly what it is, but something had to have been set off in the OP's life for him to have questioned societies manliness. As these thoughts do not simply manifest from nothing.

Cause they don't beat there asses anymore , when your mother or your father beat your ass since you couldn't beat them back you got angry inside and let it all out on the first guy that pisses you off.

Beat your child , it works !!!!!!


side effect : he can become a psychopathic killer but hey better that than a wuss.


edit: or you can always show them van-dam , Stallone and Schwarzenegger movies when there little.

So is Gene Kelly.

Mmmm....Raw Gene Kelly...

Because it's fun to be fashionable

If everybody could just read "manly" as "responsible" that would be what I'm getting at, like I already said when I quoted Selbeths post previously, but it seems nobody took notice.

Also, it's a fact that laws back in the old west weren't nearly as harsh, or has everything I've read in textbooks been lies? It's like if I said "back in the middle ages, it was easier to get away with crimes" and then someone else responded "You're 19, you can't talk about the middle ages".

Steak? Raw meat? That's for pansies. Real men eat http://a.imageshack.us/img837/5636/manwich5923.jpg!

Hey man, you should change your pic >=[

lady gaga fashionable ? !!

Real men cook.

I think I'll adopt the philosophy of Suffca for once and stay far far away from this argument. :spotted owl:

There's barely any room with your foot in it already...

So men are getting less tough? Or is it "less responsible" now? In either case, I don't know where you get your information from, but it's complete nonsense. :laugh:

Let's have a competition and we will see each other on the other side :foodndrink: Now, let's eat battery acid afterwards. It's what real men do aaaaaallll the time.

I get my information from what I see around me, what I've observed with my own senses, and they all point to men shrugging off responsibilities more than ever. Man, people sure love to put angry posts in my threads.

And Mikedzines, I see you're going heavy on the internet psychologist act.

I have to say, I agree with a few things in parts. If someone takes a swing at you, you're not always in a situation to run away or whatever, sometimes you do have to defend yourself. I wouldn't advocate violence, but being able to defend yourself also means you can defend other people. And I think that goes towards being a man, taking responsibility for your actions and helping out other people. Because sometimes people just want to fight, and it's either defend yourself or take a beating.

Real men teach real women how to cook real food.