Nowadays it seems that most men are significantly less tough, or "manly" so to speak, than they were even 60 years ago. If you go back to say, the 50's, you'd see men being more authoritative, standing up for themselves more, not being afraid of a fist-fight if it came to it. Today however, I've noticed that most men wouldn't handle things themselves immediately, but rather wait for someone else to handle it, they'll let themselves be bullied until someone helps them, etc.

So I ask you a question: Why are men becoming less "manly"?

Women are becoming more manly?

Because society is ever-changing and accepting more and more everyday.

This is exactly it. Things just aren't what they used to be.

Ha, that's funny. Is it true?

I'm going to go with the way parents are raising their kids and how "unacceptable" fighting is nowadays. Personally, I got into a couple of fights in grade school against bullies.

It depends where your at and the people you are with.

This can't go well.

Loss of gender stereotypes and the acceptance of androgynous lifestyles? Honestly, unless you're 70 or older, you don't really know how the '50's were, you just have 2nd hand nostalgia. I think the 'weak' men of 'today' are really just a few individuals you know of with low self esteem and nothing more.

*If* you were correct here, and that is how men are becoming - "in your world", that is - I would suggest that it is tied to instinct and need. Two things that fall away, as time marches on, in a decadent society such as the one you (most likely) live in.

But to assume that the entire world of men would follow suit (again, *if* you were even partway correct)... would be unwise, I think.

And, just for the record, when I say "decadent society", I do not mean it in a hateful sense. More, a historical context.


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Yes and this is a good thing. People have began to think with their minds and not with their hands.

So wait, men are lacking authority? So whos taking the authority from the men? Women? Do you find this threatening as a man?

I notice it everywhere, meek men being, well, meek. You can't honestly say that society today isn't significantly more feminine than it ever was before.

I"d say because many people realize getting into fist-fights is barbaric, and realistically, solves nothing while creating even more harsh feelings between the two people involved.

As far as being more "Authoritative", it depends on what you mean. If you mean the men of today don't boss their wives around and slap them when they don't fetch a beer for them from the fridge, yeah, it's good thats gone. Beyond that, It would seem to me that men are quite capable of being "Authoritative" or bossy, when the situation calls for it.

Pft, I moisture and then wrestle bears in my free time.

People being themselves? IT'S A CRIME I TELL YA!

The trend is not universal around the world though.

Some possible reasons for the change: trends toward self-indentifying, equal power roles and questioning hierarchies in business, women's rights, sensitivity training, conflict management training involving talking instead of fighting, women taking over the role of the traditional father, acceptence and understanding of all types of sixual and gender behaviors and indentities, ...

How does society becoming more acceptive translate into men becoming woman?
Did I just set myself up for something? I think I did.
I see it too, OP, and it scares me. Men should be men. Men should not wear their 12 year old sisters pants.
Men, you have a [censored]. Act like it.

Wow, golly, you mean to say that men are becoming less chauvinistic pigs? They actually act like human beings, and exercise empathy and compassion?

If you think "manly" means beating people up to get your way or putting down those who disagree with you, then I'm glad that definition of "manly" is being phased out. There are plenty of ways to be strong without getting physical about it. And I find it attractive if a guy is mature enough to handle his emotions and talk about them honestly, as opposed to the whole "big boys don't cry" schtick.

On the other hand, I have to concede that you poor testosterone-poisoned people need acceptable outlets for your raging aggression. Perhaps you should try punching a sandbag? Personally, I find playing God of War on the PS2 to be rather cathartic.

Gender is an artificial construct. "six" based gender roles made sense in the past when the "More physical" work needed to be carried out by the generally stronger. Now, in the modern world, its just an anacronism.

Men are becoming more like women, and women are becoming more like men, from a perspective, although I think its truer to say they're both tending towards a midpoint.

This thread is going to get locked real fast. bliviongate:

For real.

Maybe it's because http://www.zappinternet.com/video/jeyRmeDfoD/www.adnstream.tv? They must be in love.

It's just the way society evolves. I, for one, am glad that violence is becoming more frowned upon and if you equate masculinity with violence and getting in fights then I believe you've got your definitions mixed up anyway.

Ha, when i read the title i thought this was going to be about guys shaving their various body hair areas.



As for what this is actually about I'd say it's probably because there's more of a "let big brother take care of it" thing. The government wants you to not know how to defend yourself so their tanks roll over you more easily when they decide to drop this guise of democracy.



What? That's really the only reason i can think of why this would be happening.





I actually get arrested when I try to be myself. : /

And it's spam post like this one, that contribute absolutely nothing to the thread, that gets topics locked bud. :nod:
I don't know any "man" who wears skinny jeans. Just sayin'. Do I know males who wear skinny jeans? Sure. But not men.

What makes you think that being 'manly' is the best way?

I never said that being "manly" means going around beating the hell out of everyone, I said it means not letting yourself be pushed around. I see so many people just letting themselves get pushed around and not doing a thing about it. "Manly" also includes things like sticking with, and supporting your family, and not skipping out at the first sign of trouble. In today's world this happens more than ever, men leave their wife and children because they can't handle it. It's pathetic and disgraceful.