Why is the Advanced Power Armor Grey? : Fallout: New Vegas

» Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:01 pm

This maybe random, but grey is my favorite color.

» Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:25 am

"Why is the Advanced Power Armor Grey?"
'cause it would look gay if it's pinkish...

sorry to all of the gay people...

» Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:32 am

Given the fact that in those days having an animated fan on the back of the armor would have been incredibly difficult to impossible...

Do you really believe that?

If it was a fan, couldn't they have just changed the position in the frames of the idle animation? Its trivial.

~Now... that mentioning of a 60,000 watt fusion power pack (on the T-51b) makes me lean a bit more towards it being the radiation symbol.

the only evidence we have is the fact some of the original fallout design team worked on New Vegas.

Can't ask them now... They've released it with a fan in NV.

**It just sounds like someone's, "Can we make that a spinning fan?" suggestion. :banghead:

» Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:59 pm

Do you really believe that?

If it was a fan, couldn't they have just changed the position in the frames of the idle animation? Its trivial.

~Now... that mentioning of a 60,000 watt fusion power pack (on the T-51b) makes me lean a bit more towards it being the radiation symbol.

Could be, but perhaps with it being more advanced (By how many PA generations we don't know) but perhaps the Enclave somehow found a way to change it's power output, but that fan is required for cooling of precious pieces (Perhaps it's a fan/reactor rolled into one)

Plus, people complain about it not being stealthy, Thank the Enclave, they always went in guns blazing.

» Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:18 am

I saw it as a faded black color. I could care less why it's that colour, it looks good.

» Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:22 am

Do you really believe that?

If it was a fan, couldn't they have just changed the position in the frames of the idle animation? Its trivial.

And then having

~Now... that mentioning of a 60,000 watt fusion power pack (on the T-51b) makes me lean a bit more towards it being the radiation symbol.

And yet the T-51b doesn't have a radiation symbol on it, so that really doesn't prove anything either.

Can't ask them now... They've released it with a fan in NV.

Yeah they released it with a fan, which is evidence that proves it was always a fan.
People used to assume that the color of a light saber was based off of personality of the user.

» Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:46 am

...

So?

It does not have to prove anything :shrug:; I said that the mention of the power pack on the t-51b, has me leaning towards it being a radiation symbol on the Enclave armor
~and it does. :laugh:

(But also the artwork is clear enough on it's own for me.)

Yeah they released it with a fan, which is evidence that proves it was always a fan.

Why exactly? Think about it... Think about the other things (in both games) that contradict prior art; Like Mr.Handy for example.

» Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:45 pm

If it was a fan, couldn't they have just changed the position in the frames of the idle animation? Its trivial.

No. You'd create more problems than its worth, and then you'd have to answer the question of "why does it stop when I'm moving?".

» Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:49 pm

No. You'd create more problems than its worth, and then you'd have to answer the question of "why does it stop when I'm moving?".

That assumes it runs all the time ~it might run off and on as needed. (And there are stationary idle animations too remember?)

*Still... its moot as it was not a fan. :shrug:

» Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:35 am

I think it is safe to say, when it comes to the fan on the back of the APA, that Gizmo...

*Puts on sunglasses*

is not a fan.

YEEEEEAAAAAAHHH

» Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:35 am

I think it is safe to say, when it comes to the fan on the back of the APA, that Gizmo...

*Puts on sunglasses*

is not a fan.

YEEEEEAAAAAAHHH

:lmao:

Indeed.
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj125/Gizmojunk/Armor-5.gif
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj125/Gizmojunk/Armor2.gif

http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj125/Gizmojunk/armor4.gif
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj125/Gizmojunk/armor3-1.gif

» Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:43 pm

~Now... that mentioning of a 60,000 watt fusion power pack (on the T-51b) makes me lean a bit more towards it being the radiation symbol.

Potentially, but the fan makes sense too. A lot of sense. Portable fusion reactors need cooling, and lots of it.

» Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:13 pm

Potentially, but the fan makes sense too. A lot of sense. Portable fusion reactors need cooling, and lots of it.

Recessed vents.

» Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:40 am

Recessed vents.

Which are a poor solution for something that size.

» Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:56 am

Which are a poor solution for something that size.

So? That was just a suggested possibility. It could be liquid nitrogen in a self contained cooling unit with no visible parts ~it could be anything... even a fan,
(but that decal on the back isn't one).

*I did wonder what I could come up with in 4 minutes... and this is it http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj125/Gizmojunk/armor6-test.gif

If they wanted they could have done this for real. (It need not be picked apart either, as this is not how they would have done it.)

» Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:35 pm

Honestly I like them better Grey.

I love the vulture helmets and gigantic haunched shoulder look. Very menacing.
I know their all about purity, so white would make a nice color to show their mindsets, even though they have distorted views and are basically wasteland Nazis.

» Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:12 pm

The armor is grey because it's been around for a long time and become somewhat dirty.

» Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:59 am

its probably really weathered, seeing as where it came from.

» Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:50 pm

Why exactly? Think about it... Think about the other things (in both games) that contradict prior art; Like Mr.Handy for example.

Well the Bible said nobody knew what happened to Navarro but now of course we know :cryvaultboy: It's still the same model power armour, it was never clear what it was in the old games, I would have said radiation symbol too, but I now fully accept that it was a large fan. Unless you are suggesting that they're different suits, it's not contradicting established canon.

» Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:40 pm

Well the Bible said nobody knew what happened to Navarro but now of course we know :cryvaultboy: It's still the same model power armour, it was never clear what it was in the old games, I would have said radiation symbol too, but I now fully accept that it was a large fan. Unless you are suggesting that they're different suits, it's not contradicting established canon.

The artwork was clear enough for me... I don't accept that it was a large fan.
It is obviously a fan modeled into the Remnant armor, but that does not change that it wasn't so in the original ~and that's hat the remnant armor is supposed to be right?.

:laugh: All this scrutinizing of the old sprite has convinced me that I made the Rad symbol too small in my own model; I think I will make it a tad larger.

» Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:42 am

I'm not sure it is either or. All I known now is, when I played Fallout 2 a few days ago, I saw the 'radiation symbol' as a fan. I never even payed attention to the back of the armor until New Vegas :swear:

» Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:10 pm

The artwork was clear enough for me... I don't accept that it was a large fan.
It is obviously a fan modeled into the Remnant armor, but that does not change that it wasn't so in the original ~and that's hat the remnant armor is supposed to be right?.

:laugh: All this scrutinizing of the old sprite has convinced me that I made the Rad symbol too small in my own model; I think I will make it a tad larger.

We're getting into some kind of complicated senario now I think, for me, New Vegas has over-written the past. It can't be both right? It has to be one or the other, they are the same model unless your pulling a F3 on me

» Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:19 pm

We're getting into some kind of complicated senario now I think, for me, New Vegas has over-written the past. It can't be both right? It has to be one or the other, they are the same model unless your pulling a F3 on me

Well... New Vegas is based on Fallout 3, and it greatly over-wrote the established past; so NV doing it is not so surprising.
*Just look at the Super Sledge, Laser rifle, and the http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Mr_Handy 'bot.

This wasn't too hard... http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/jj125/Gizmojunk/Mr-Handy31-1.jpg
(Though it wasn't finished, and I've lost the mesh. :banghead: ; I'll need to remake it, to finish my mod.)

» Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:00 am

Well... New Vegas is based on Fallout 3, and it greatly over-wrote the established past; so NV doing it is not so surprising.
*Just look at the Super Sledge, Laser rifle, and the http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Mr_Handy 'bot.

Asthetical changes are to be expected, for the longest time I assumed that the APA in F3 was, technically in lore, the same as the Mk II in Fallout 2. Same with the Vertibirds, I don't think that the entire fleet was rebuilt; just artistic differences but, in lore, the same.

» Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:48 pm

Asthetical changes are to be expected, for the longest time I assumed that the APA in F3 was, technically in lore, the same as the Mk II in Fallout 2. Same with the Vertibirds, I don't think that the entire fleet was rebuilt; just artistic differences but, in lore, the same.

I don't think so... That robot was featured in the game's title sequence, and throughout both series games. That'd be like changing the Power Armor helmet. :lmao:

IMO though... None of the new designs fit the series. :shrug: ~But then... IMO neither does the new gameplay ~so what's left but the name?
(Actually... It would have pretty been nice if they'd changed the spelling too, come to think of it.)