Why the devs aren't participating to discussions? : V - Skyrim

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:27 pm

Oh, dear...

:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

Mock me if you must, I will discover the truth!

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:10 pm

8881 threads of suggestions, complaints, utopia, riots... for a change I would like a thread where only the devs are allowed to post, what they think about us and our suggestions.

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:08 am

If you were a dev, would you want to hang out in a forum where 80% of the comments are people telling you how to do your job or that you outright svck?

i personally find it amusing seeing a bunch of people who don't understand videogame development try to pretend they understand videogame development, then get angry when people who do understand videogame development try to correct them.

regarding devposting - you can draw comparisons to Bungie and DICE and other developers regarding the level of community interaction but bear in mind Halo and Battlefield and whatnot are very set in tradition and aren't particularly ambitious (you could argue that about Battlefield, i guess, but) compared to Bethesda, who regularly overhaul every aspect of their games with each iteration. the last time the developers actively participated in community discussion and speculation was Oblivion, and look how that turned out - RPG Codex has a big, friendly thread full of "developer lies".

if a dev talks about something and then it gets cut, even if they explicitly say HEY THIS WAS CUT people will still whine that they were never told it was cut because nobody knows how to [censored] read.

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:37 am

8881 threads of suggestions, complaints, utopia, riots... for a change I would like a thread where only the devs are allowed to post, what they think about us and our suggestions.

I bet a thread like that would be locked pretty fast for abuse of censored words :lol:

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:48 am

I'd assume that Todd has forbid any discussion on Skyrim by the devs. Not because they would reveal anything on purpose, but if they're talking about Skyrim, something's bound to slip out.

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:20 pm

I bet a thread like that would be locked pretty fast for abuse of censored words :lol:

:rofl:

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:19 pm

I'd assume that Todd has forbid any discussion on Skyrim by the devs. Not because they would reveal anything on purpose, but if they're talking about Skyrim, something's bound to slip out.

Yeah I wouldn't want them to reveal something like "Yes Spears are in the game" if they didn't have permission or the feature itself hasn't been 100% confirmed for the game.

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:42 am

I will find out what makes your junk thunder! Don't think I have forgotten!

Oh, dear...

let's not go this way, it'll leave a bitter taste!

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:37 pm

let's not go this way, it'll leave a bitter taste!

this is slightly off-topic (such a rebel!) but i just wanted to say that you have a fantastic name.

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:40 am

this is slightly off-topic (such a rebel!) but i just wanted to say that you have a fantastic name.

yeah, no doubt, Einstein was already taken

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:10 pm

Speak of the devil...

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:18 pm

I'm mostly worried that if I post something like "I had jell-o for lunch" and then someone will latch onto that and start a thread about "Dev confirmed gelatinous cubes are in game!"

No, I am not confirming gelatinous cubes are in the game.

If I did, the gelatinous cube that monitors the forum would come and eat me.

Oh god, it's here!

Run for your liv.... *garble*

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:57 pm

... I am ... confirming gelatinous cubes are in the game...

...start a thread about "Dev confirmed gelatinous cubes are in game!"...

ok, will do.

EDIT: i kinda do actually want to start a "SmkViper hinted at gelatinous cubes in Skyrim" thread. just to see the reaction.

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:42 pm

Well it wouldn't be a discussion if the devs start replying with facts, also confirming ideas would be spoiling them. Anyway the moderators join in most of the time if the idea is good

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 6:47 am

Anyway the moderators join in most of the time if the idea is good

Yeah, but the moderators dont know sh-... I mean... The moderators are the greatest. :bowdown: We shouldn't be so lucky as to hear their opinions about the game.

(but really, the moderators are just as clueless as you or I.)

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:26 am

Why the devs aren't participating to discussions?

Because there are too many of us now, so many that Bethesda has a slick new studio.
How does it smell in there? In the tour video on gameinformer it looked like it smelled clean.

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:52 pm

I'm mostly worried that if I post something like "I had jell-o for lunch" and then someone will latch onto that and start a thread about "Dev confirmed gelatinous cubes are in game!"

No, I am not confirming gelatinous cubes are in the game.

If I did, the gelatinous cube that monitors the forum would come and eat me.

Oh god, it's here!

Run for your liv.... *garble*

[img]http://www.swordfin.com/images/fbfiles/images/gelatinous_cube.jpg[/img]

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 1:57 pm

I believe the devs could add to the hype here on their own forum.

There's more than enough hype on the forum already, I don't think we need to add to it.

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:39 am

It seems the surefire way to get devs participating in a thread is to make the thread about the devs. for now on my thread titles are gonna be like:

"I hope the Devs know that you can't change direction mid-air"
"The Devs are too LAZY to put Levitation in"
"The Devs just know that they can't handle flails or crossbows"

hopefully reverse psychology works on them

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 8:28 am

Great, now I have Hall & Oates stuck in my head. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMTI8vg7A5U, anyone?

If I did, the gelatinous cube that monitors the forum would come and eat me.

I feel like the Gelatinous Forum Cube would be something that Valve would make up. You know, like the Weighted Companion Cube. They're all about the cubes over there.

Because there are too many of us now, so many that Bethesda has a slick new studio.
How does it smell in there? In the tour video on gameinformer it looked like it smelled clean.

Like sunshine, rainbows, and unicorn farts.

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:20 pm

I noticed that despite the big fans community and the huge amounts of discussions here about Skyrim, there is something lacking: the feedback from the developers.

I had expected a better communication between the team and the fans because there are so many discussions about Skyrim that would benefit greatly some inside explanations. Some of the dilemas or the suggestions go way off because people don't have a clue what's the team's view on a particular subject.

I know of meet the devs threads, they are a fun reading and that's all but they are not a bi-directional communication about the game.

I wouldn't want spoilers from the game. I wouldn't want the devs to take sides in disputes. I would just like to see some off the record devs contribution on the topics, personal opinions and nothing more, but related to Skyrim.

What about you, do you miss this dialogue or it's just me?

Well for starters I'm sure they have better things to do with their time. Secondly, I'm sure they all had to sign confidentiality/non-disclosure agreements. Thirdly, the company probably has a strict policy about it. But you are right, it is pretty selfish of them not to risk their jobs, careers, the possibility of getting sued, their personal wealth, the well being of themselves and their family so that we can know their views on why spears (in the traditional sense) are not in Skyrim.........some people are so inconsiderate.

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:07 pm

Great, now I have Hall & Oates stuck in my head. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMTI8vg7A5U, anyone?

I feel like the Gelatinous Forum Cube would be something that Valve would make up. You know, like the Weighted Companion Cube. They're all about the cubes over there.

Like sunshine, rainbows, and unicorn farts.

I was gonna go with pinesol, darn so close...

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:04 pm

Like sunshine, rainbows, and unicorn farts.

Redundant

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:25 pm

Get Todd on the horn, I got his mother on the other line, she says release skyrim.

» Mon Jan 31, 2011 7:23 pm

Its still kinda early. Im sure their trying to keep a lid on things for now, let the hype build before giving away too much info.