In your opinion. To many other people, stats add a LOT to the gameplay experience. Hence why so many people have rightly commented on how lacking character development is in Skyrim. :confused:

I think what it comes down to is there are two types of TES fans. Those who are perfectly happy just running around killing things, exploring some dungeons, collecting loot and doing quests. And those who want rich and meaningful character development and progression behind all that. To the former, stats are just an obstacle to overcome. They're not fussed about spending hours defining who their character is - all they want to do is play around with their character's appearance then make them all-powerful as quickly as possible so they can go and play TES like a sandbox action-adventure game. To the latter group, attributes are a must. They enjoy spending time building their character (not just deciding their physical appearance), and value progression, meaningful choice, consequences for actions, etc. as important aspects of the game.

Eh, I preferred to play Morrowind/Oblivion with a mod like Galsiah's Character Development, which grew stats naturally out of your skillups (not unlike that suggestion for attributes earlier).

The type of TES fan that cares about character building and attributes may eventually lose interest in the series as it becomes more action adventure.

I think Bethesda need to take a leaf out of WoW...they made all the same mistakes with talent trees, which are basically the same thing. Useless and uninteresting perks to get to the actual good perks are a no-no, same with lackluster higher level perks. The higher up the tree you go the cooler the abilities need to be.

Having to choose between: strength, agility, endurance, speed, willpower, intelligence, luck, etc. wich are influenced by the skills you used to level up is wayy more intereseting than putting 1 point in magicka, health and stamina... seriously...

Because instead of picking 7 arbitrary stats to upgrade your health, stamina, and migicka, you just directly pick health stamina and magicka.....

Oblivion was like this:

I have 6 cards, two are blue, two are red, and two are green.
If you pick a blue one, you will get a truck,
If you pick a red one, you will get a motorcycle,
And if you pick a green one, you will get a sports car.

Skyrim is like:

Do you want a truck, a motorcycle, or a sports car?

Do you see?

Well in Oblivion you could take all three.

But a smaller amount of each. In Skyrim you could do the same thing by just cycling though them every 3 levels...

They used to like having several main attributes too, but then they took an arrow in the knee.

I don't understand why they didn't just expand on Morrowind's system. I mean, I love Call of Duty, perhaps my favorite current-gen series, but I really don't see how making Skyrim more like it by removing stats and just having perks really makes a better overall game. Don't get me wrong, Skyrim is a good game, I've just never been a huge fan of removing mechanics just because the devs feel that they don't work. I mean, why remove when you can expand on something? That's what MW3 did, they kept the traditional killstreaks and added 2 more types of killstreaks altogether, making the possibilities and customizations even more broad. Why should Bethesdas game be different?

They are just appealing to the lowest common denominator. You really think the average 90 IQ console gamer can wrap his brain around more than 3 basic stats and (you do more damage) perks?

...and is too reliant on perks over skills. But that's how Bethesda works. They go too far on the new shiny system that grabs their attention and dial it back in the next game (see Level Scaling in Oblivion)

Released for down syndrome players, and other retards, games nowadays must be accesible by everyone. Remember that.

The names are gone, the functions are still here.

Strength: Damage is affected by skills, and carrying capacity by Stamina.
Endurance: Health
Intelligence: Magicka
Willpower: Major enchant
Agility: Not needed, and fairly useless
Speed: No longer needed, as all characters have a BALANCED run speed
Personality: Replaced by Speech, in it's entirety
Luck: Useless attribute is useless

In your opinion. To many other people, stats add a LOT to the gameplay experience. Hence why so many people have rightly commented on how lacking character development is in Skyrim. :confused:

I think what it comes down to is there are two types of TES fans. Those who are perfectly happy just running around killing things, exploring some dungeons, collecting loot and doing quests. And those who want rich and meaningful character development and progression behind all that. To the former, stats are just an obstacle to overcome. They're not fussed about spending hours defining who their character is - all they want to do is play around with their character's appearance then make them all-powerful as quickly as possible so they can go and play TES like a sandbox action-adventure game. To the latter group, attributes are a must. They enjoy spending time building their character (not just deciding their physical appearance), and value progression, meaningful choice, consequences for actions, etc. as important aspects of the game.

Because instead of picking 7 arbitrary stats to upgrade your health, stamina, and migicka, you just directly pick health stamina and magicka.....

Oblivion was like this:

I have 6 cards, two are blue, two are red, and two are green.
If you pick a blue one, you will get a truck,
If you pick a red one, you will get a motorcycle,
And if you pick a green one, you will get a sports car.

Skyrim is like:

Do you want a truck, a motorcycle, or a sports car?

Do you see?

Ah, comparisons to COD. Different type of game, different genre, vastly different setting, different mechanics, different style of progression through the story, different degree of linearity, different notions of PC characterization...

I wonder if such comparisons will ever get old?