Why the mini gun is pointless

Post » Thu May 19, 2011 11:44 am

When I first started brink I made myself a medium character and all was fine and when I got him to level 19 - 20 I made myself a heavy character to see the new weapons and health and I already completed the challenge for the unlock of the mini gun and instantly started to use it and all was well

But I soon began to relies I was dying much more and becoming a lot slower with it then with the other LMG,s and the SMG,s and I released something

The spin up time is so long on the mini gun that when you start to shoot you already lost most of your health unless the guy shooting you has the most rubbish aim in the world or has a rubbish gun

Sure it has good accuracy and power I will admit but swapping it back is so slow and you only get 1 mag with 200 rounds unless you have a solider give you some

Please give me your thoughts on the subject
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 11:33 am

it not a run a gun weapon post up ads to spin and rain down hell :gun: on anyone who looks at you wrong :tops:


also i dont under stand your poll you can only use the minigun as a heavy
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 4:49 am

Poll has no relevance to Gottlung's effectiveness.

Minigun is a Heavy-exclusive weapon, and you've blatantly stated you never tried learning how to use a Heavy until you were already level 20. Start at a low level and LEARN to use a Heavy, THEN tell us your opinion of their weapons. If you learn to use them properly, Heavy weapons are powerful. If you learn to use them properly, Heavy bodies are powerful. If you try using them at a high level without backing it up with the experience it takes to get there, you're not going to succeed.

Create a new character, switch to Heavy as soon as you unlock it, and stay with it until you reach 20. At low levels, you'll immediately notice yourself dying less, and as you level up, that will either drop off as you realise you're not skilled with the Heavy body type, or it will continue, and possibly improve, if you are good at it. heavies require a more cautious tactical approach, while Lights are run-and-gun - Mediums are in-between, and can benefit from either playstyle, which makes them more versatile, but less capable in the specific roles of each extreme.

EDIT: I voted Light, because it's my main, and my preferred body type, but my second character is a Heavy, and I'm pretty good with him (even though I haven't reached 20 with it yet)
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 11:52 am

When I first started brink I made myself a medium character and all was fine and when I got him to level 19 - 20 I made myself a heavy character to see the new weapons and health and I already completed the challenge for the unlock of the mini gun and instantly started to use it and all was well

But I soon began to relies I was dying much more and becoming a lot slower with it then with the other LMG,s and the SMG,s and I released something

The spin up time is so long on the mini gun that when you start to shoot you already lost most of your health unless the guy shooting you has the most rubbish aim in the world or has a rubbish gun

Sure it has good accuracy and power I will admit but swapping it back is so slow and you only get 1 mag with 200 rounds unless you have a solider give you some

Please give me your thoughts on the subject



No, it has horrendous accuracy and the power is meager. FFS, even a slingshot would have more accuracy than the mini-gun. Gotlung is one of the worst guns in the game. The other two LMGs are far superior imo.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 11:20 am

I heavy engineer, I have mini-gun, I kill.

I also play a light medic, light op, med soldier, med medic, heavy soldier. They all play differently. I love the minigun, backed up with a turret and mines, with this combo I can hold down almost any chokepoint. As a heavy soldier I don't use minigun. Its all about figuring out how to play different combinations of size, perks, and weapons.

Some people play better with different combos, I have 8 characters all set up differently so I can experiment. I find this helps.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 6:51 am

I heavy engineer, I have mini-gun, I kill.

I also play a light medic, light op, med soldier, med medic, heavy soldier. They all play differently. I love the minigun, backed up with a turret and mines, with this combo I can hold down almost any chokepoint. As a heavy soldier I don't use minigun. Its all about figuring out how to play different combinations of size, perks, and weapons.

Some people play better with different combos, I have 8 characters all set up differently so I can experiment. I find this helps.


How does a list of what characters you play have any bearing on the uselessness of the Gotlung gun? I've played as a heavy engineer and have repeatedly tried to make the mini-gun work. But the sad fact is, the Chiz or Max are far, far superior. Add the extended drums to them and they nearly have the same ammo cap as the mini-gun, do more damage, are more accurate and are all around better. The Gotlung needs a buff, period.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 10:25 am

How does a list of what characters you play have any bearing on the uselessness of the Gotlung gun? I've played as a heavy engineer and have repeatedly tried to make the mini-gun work. But the sad fact is, the Chiz or Max are far, far superior. Add the extended drums to them and they nearly have the same ammo cap as the mini-gun, do more damage, are more accurate and are all around better. The Gotlung needs a buff, period.


The listing of characters shows that I play many different styles, and that a combo of minigun and turret work well for me. The chiz and max aren't more superior for me when I use this combo. On my heavy soldier I perfer the chiz, but not on my eng.

Yes a buff would be great, but not needed for how I use it, imo.

Please remember, your playstyle does not determine the effectiveness of a certain gun. Some people swear by the carb-9, which I believe is a terrible gun. And as I stated before, there is a human element which makes stats not as important as some people believe thay are.

Also, If the minigun does not work for you, don't use it. The game doesn't say that you have to use it. Use what works for you, and.... Happy Killing :)
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 9:00 am

The listing of characters shows that I play many different styles, and that a combo of minigun and turret work well for me. The chiz and max aren't more superior for me when I use this combo. On my heavy soldier I perfer the chiz, but not on my eng.

Yes a buff would be great, but not needed for how I use it, imo.

Please remember, your playstyle does not determine the effectiveness of a certain gun. Some people swear by the carb-9, which I believe is a terrible gun. And as I stated before, there is a human element which makes stats not as important as some people believe thay are.

Also, If the minigun does not work for you, don't use it. The game doesn't say that you have to use it. Use what works for you, and.... Happy Killing :)

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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 9:54 pm

The Gattling is best used for support. Use it for lighting up areas of interest while your teamates storm that area. Use it to keep foes at bay...like blazing a doorway or corridor to give your teamates enough time to complete objectives. They (Heavies and Gattlings) work well when they support teammates, most times...they are too slow for one on one battles. I eat them up all the time when they are alone. But when they are aiding their teammates with suppressing fire...you will have a hell of a hard time disbanding them. This game is all about tactics, unlike the run and gun games some people are use to.
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 9:28 pm

I love the Gotlung. That is all.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 2:59 am

I like the gotlung gun iron sights runs it up for you and if you know the range it work great with the heavy i usually go mini gun and rockstedi AR as my second i think it works just fine and i got no problems dying
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 1:26 am

I like to think of the Gotlung (and most other miniguns in other FPSes) as incredibly fast-firing, automatic shotguns (In fact, the TF2 minigun's bullets have the EXACT SAME stats as a shotgun pellet. It just fires much more faster.)

If you're not using it where you would use a shotgun, you're doing it wrong.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 4:48 am

The listing of characters shows that I play many different styles, and that a combo of minigun and turret work well for me. The chiz and max aren't more superior for me when I use this combo. On my heavy soldier I perfer the chiz, but not on my eng.

Yes a buff would be great, but not needed for how I use it, imo.

Please remember, your playstyle does not determine the effectiveness of a certain gun. Some people swear by the carb-9, which I believe is a terrible gun. And as I stated before, there is a human element which makes stats not as important as some people believe thay are.

Also, If the minigun does not work for you, don't use it. The game doesn't say that you have to use it. Use what works for you, and.... Happy Killing :)


No, the comparison of the Gotlung to the other LMG's determines it's effectiveness. I've played Heavy engineer with all 3, can do the same exact things you describe doing with your playstyle. I mean how many ways can an engineer hold down a bottleneck or hall way? Not that much variety imo. I personally want a gun that can cut the enemy down fastest, looking a the stat damages, accuracy, and ROF for each and factoring in the wind up time for the mini-gun comes out in favor of the Chiz or Max.

Does the mini-gun look cool? Certainly. Is it as effective as the other two LMG's? No, it is not. Playstyle has nothing to do with it. A single target, standing still and being shot by all 3 guns from the same range is the only test you need to do. The mini-gun will not, and can not kill a player faster than the other two. And that's not even including the attachments that you can add to them.

I keep hearing about how the mini-gun is best used to suppress the enemy, and I say, the best way to suppress them, is to make sure they are dead. The only advantage the mini has is about 50 more bullets. whippidy dooooo.

I don't want this post to sound like I'm attacking you, because I'm not. You use what you think is best as will I. Perhaps the best answer to the OP's question will be: It's in the eye of the beholder...
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 12:04 am

Gotlung is VERY weak, but I use it just to have fun. But seriously needs a buff.
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 11:12 pm

Perhaps the best answer to the OP's question will be: It's in the eye of the beholder...



Indeed it is. I only tried to advise by stating what works for me. And I'm not arrogant enough to say mines or any body else's way of using weapons is correct. But, if you have to ask how to use and/or complain about certain weapons or body types...you're clearly doing something wrong, or working with something that isn't custom fit for your style of play. What really needs to be said is "Practice".
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 5:51 am

When I first started brink I made myself a medium character and all was fine and when I got him to level 19 - 20 I made myself a heavy character to see the new weapons and health and I already completed the challenge for the unlock of the mini gun and instantly started to use it and all was well

But I soon began to relies I was dying much more and becoming a lot slower with it then with the other LMG,s and the SMG,s and I released something

The spin up time is so long on the mini gun that when you start to shoot you already lost most of your health unless the guy shooting you has the most rubbish aim in the world or has a rubbish gun

Sure it has good accuracy and power I will admit but swapping it back is so slow and you only get 1 mag with 200 rounds unless you have a solider give you some

Please give me your thoughts on the subject



lol good accuracy and power? it does 1 more damage per shot than the carb9 (24vs23) and has the worst accuracy of any gun in the game.
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 10:40 pm

The Gattling is best used for support. Use it for lighting up areas of interest while your teamates storm that area. Use it to keep foes at bay...like blazing a doorway or corridor to give your teamates enough time to complete objectives. They (Heavies and Gattlings) work well when they support teammates, most times...they are too slow for one on one battles. I eat them up all the time when they are alone. But when they are aiding their teammates with suppressing fire...you will have a hell of a hard time disbanding them. This game is all about tactics, unlike the run and gun games some people are use to.



nail on the head
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 9:58 pm

The Gotlung is one of my favorite weapons (what can I say, I <3 miniguns) and using it is almost always a hilarious experience, but yeah it could probably do with a bit of a buff. I understand SD's reservations regarding it, as it would be incredibly easy to make overpowered, but when you consider the Chinzor equipped with extended mags is almost better than it in every way the whole point kind of becomes moot. Also, there appears to be a glitch with the weapon where sometimes it won't actually fire, just spins up indefinitely. The only way I was able to solve it (on 360) was to repeatedly rev it up with left trigger then switch to right over and over. Don't know if that's been mentioned before.
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Post » Wed May 18, 2011 11:04 pm

Treat it like a CQB weapon or a Trench Sweeper. Hold down the aim button and start spinning it before you turn a corner where you know a room full of people are and in the immortal words of Slayer, it'll be "Raining Blood! From a lacerated sky."
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 5:35 am

Gatling is only useful when with your team (obviously) and you're supporting them taking people out. One on One say you vs a Light with a Carb offhand, The light will win, More mobility, and highest damage gun.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 12:51 pm

No, it has horrendous accuracy and the power is meager. FFS, even a slingshot would have more accuracy than the mini-gun. Gotlung is one of the worst guns in the game. The other two LMGs are far superior imo.



Actually, the Gotlung is superior to either of the other 2 machine guns.

It has a much higher Ammo capacity than the other two, reloads twice as fast, and also does great damage. The only downside is that you have to spool it up to fire... good thing that aiming spins it up for you while you go around corners.

If you learn how to use the Gotlung, it's an extremely devastating weapon. I run engineer and can put down 8 enemies in 1 clip at medium range, and I've done it numerous times.
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Post » Thu May 19, 2011 7:52 am

The mini gun(Gotling) is for crowd control whereas the maximus is a more one on one gun. I don't understand why everyone is so upset with heavy's. When I run into them online with my medium character I get destroyed by the heavy weapons.

The best tactic ive seen is equipping the high capacity mags and shooting before they clear a corner, you can hear them coming but they can still get you if they have good aim.
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