why is there no brotherhood of stell outcasts : Fallout: New Vegas

» Wed Jul 20, 2011 4:58 am

i want to know why there are no outcasts in fallout new Vegas i know the BoS was wiped out and the outcasts are a faction but couldn't there at least be a small base or be like the enclave

» Tue Jul 19, 2011 3:36 pm

im meant there were no bos in Nevada

» Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:01 pm

BoS are in the Mojave, go to Hidden Valley, don't get shot, they aren't nice guys like the ones on the East Coast, these guys are like the actual main BoS, the BoS proper.

» Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:41 am

If the Outcasts made the trip back from DC, they probably went to the Lost Hills Bunker, they wouldn't have stopped in the Mojave.

» Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:59 pm

Holy crap on a stick with extra mustard, son. You just picked the wrong day to ask a question like this. Today's what I like to call "Freaky Crazy Nerdrage Day". It happens every night before a game or DLC release. And you gotta go ask a question just begging to be stomped on by the Dinosaurs. Stomped on like a danish ant by a clog shod Olga. Run for the nearest bunker and hunker down tight. Good luck, son. You're gonna need it. Make sure you save the last round for yourself.

-Gunny out.

» Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:51 pm

Because the outcast split from the east coast BoS because elder lyon wanted to focus on helping the people of the DC wasteland instead of focusing on the BoSs true goal. That has not happend in the Mojave sector which means that there isn′t any outcasts.

» Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:29 am

im meant there were no bos in Nevada

You're going to need some Mentats.

» Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:42 pm

Thats because the Outcast were originally part of the DC Chapter of the BoS. As stated, they most likely went to Lost Hills, and didn't bother stopping in the Mojave.

» Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:36 pm

i want to know why there are no outcasts in fallout new Vegas i know the BoS was wiped out and the outcasts are a faction but couldn't there at least be a small base or be like the enclave

The BoS in the Mojave basically are the Outcasts. The Outcasts in DC broke off from Elder Lyons' chapter because he "went native" and abandoned the mission, which was to gather technology and to hell with the welfare of the locals.

It's Lyons' BoS chapter in DC that are the real outcasts from the organization.

» Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:32 am

Holy crap on a stick with extra mustard, son. You just picked the wrong day to ask a question like this. Today's what I like to call "Freaky Crazy Nerdrage Day". It happens every night before a game or DLC release. And you gotta go ask a question just begging to be stomped on by the Dinosaurs. Stomped on like a danish ant by a clog shod Olga. Run for the nearest bunker and hunker down tight. Good luck, son. You're gonna need it. Make sure you save the last round for yourself.

-Gunny out.

Gunny, the Dinosaurs don't "stomp on" anyone, we are primarily scavengers or pack-hunters, not big enough to tackle large prey in such a manner.

» Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:38 pm

The BoS in the Mojave basically are the Outcasts. The Outcasts in DC broke off from Elder Lyons' chapter because he "went native" and abandoned the mission, which was to gather technology and to hell with the welfare of the locals.

It's Lyons' BoS chapter in DC that are the real outcasts from the organization.

The Outcasts may think they are the winners, but the BoS has access to the Enclave's gear since they wont be "needing it" anymore, and they have Liberty Prime. They lucked out in the end.

» Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:55 pm

The Outcast are closer to you than you think...

...In your heart.

Trying to scavage anything vital and important

» Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:16 pm

You reality did not pick a good day to ask this question, the forumites are riled up enough as it is and right about now they're about ready for blood :evil:

» Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:35 pm

the brotherhood of stell is one of my favorite factions

» Tue Jul 19, 2011 2:50 pm

Lyon's Brotherhood was a splinter faction, while the Outcasts in DC wanted to remain true to the Brotherhood's original ideals. So the Brotherhood you see in Vegas ARE the Outcasts.

Then again.... troll, anyone?

» Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:52 am

I think the Lyons BoS had the right idea of splintering. They take on locals to become initiates, and they try to make friends. Since the standard BoS has no friends and they don't have many troops, they will be ant food soon.

» Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:51 am

I think the Lyons BoS had the right idea of splintering. They take on locals to become initiates, and they try to make friends. Since the standard BoS has no friends and they don't have many troops, they will be ant food soon.

You don't see anything wrong with giving wastelanders Power Armor? You've got to be joking, their literally giving the wasteland the cutting-edge warmongering equipment of Pre-War, that's asking for someone to blow something up.

» Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:57 pm

You don't see anything wrong with giving wastelanders Power Armor? You've got to be joking, their literally giving the wasteland the cutting-edge warmongering equipment of Pre-War, that's asking for someone to blow something up.

Initiates get Recon Armor at the most. By the time they are Knighted, they are full on members of the BoS. Hidden Valley is doomed to fail. DC BoS has their own set of problems, but they will last longer than the MW BoSers.

» Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:13 pm

What? If anything, the MWBoS is much better off than the CWBoS, for they do what you say its good the CWBoS does, but are much more controlling of technology.

» Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:48 pm

I think the Lyons BoS had the right idea of splintering. They take on locals to become initiates, and they try to make friends. Since the standard BoS has no friends and they don't have many troops, they will be ant food soon.

Locals are NCR grunt meat. You gotta have skills if you want to join the BoS. No screw that, royal blood line or nothing buddy.

» Tue Jul 19, 2011 2:30 pm

What? If anything, the MWBoS is much better off than the CWBoS, for they do what you say its good the CWBoS does, but are much more controlling of technology.

Hoarding tech is useless if you cant use it, or don't have anyone to use it. The BoS is finished by their own doing. Good riddance anyways.

» Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:52 pm

Hoarding tech is useless if you cant use it, or don't have anyone to use it. The BoS is finished by their own doing. Good riddance anyways.

Do you even know what the BoS is about? Preventing another Great War by not letting people make advances in weaponry or related technology.

» Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:19 am

Do you even know what the BoS is about? Preventing another Great War by not letting people make advances in weaponry or related technology.

The BoS is becoming more irrelevant by the day. People are starting to actually build their own stuff rather than scavenge it, although there are still many great things to be found. The Boomers have found their bomber, for example. Couldn't that thing cause another Great War by itself in a post apocalyptic world? Van Graffs deal energy weapons. You can hide in your bunker if you want, but the world will make technological advances without them. In fact, I don't think the BoS is becoming irrelevant, I think they already are.

» Tue Jul 19, 2011 4:22 pm

The BoS is becoming more irrelevant by the day. People are starting to actually build their own stuff rather than scavenge it, although there are still many great things to be found. The Boomers have found their bomber, for example. Couldn't that thing cause another Great War by itself in a post apocalyptic world? Van Graffs deal energy weapons. You can hide in your bunker if you want, but the world will make technological advances without them. In fact, I don't think the BoS is becoming irrelevant, I think they already are.

They were relevant back in the day, and I'm sure they would kill the Boomers and slaughter the Van Graffs if they didn't fear the NCR, and started acting like the MWBoS.

» Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:52 pm

I have no doubt they were relevant back when a Laser Rifle and Power Armor was all you needed. But when you look at Post Apocalyptia these days, it just seems different. I just don't see any practical purpose of having the BoS keep doing what it's been doing. Sure, back in say, 2098, if a raider came across some high value tech, he would unleash hell. But that doesn't really mean much today.

If you refuse to adapt, you will be destroyed. They are on that path.