So do I, sometimes

very intresting OP and argumentation, you dont have to forgot however that crytek is NOT a EA studio like black box or something, they are a independent studio in EA's Partners program. Of course EA has influence on the games development because crytek can just say: **** you well go to other UBI or whatever(possible huge fines for contract break) But in the end it is crytek's game and i believe that the "failure" of crysis 2 is mostly due to false marketing, bad design decisions aimed to maximize audience and profits, and bad communication towards the communitie(DX11 anyone?)

thanks for the post

100% agree. EA is the reason the PC audience got **** over as well.

No.. they aren't. PC Gamers are clearly that stupid and you are the top of the list. First off, before I thrash you with the money issues, Battlefield 3 will be PC first with 64 player servers and EA is going to spend $100m to market it. Well, umm, doesn't that rip up the whole EA reason? YES IT DOES.

Think for two seconds: How much is a Xbox 360? It's $300 for it, controller, headset, all the cables, and even a crappy free game and that's JUST FOR $300. How much is a PC? It's $300 alone for a good video card.. then you have the case, motherboard, RAM, DVD-Drive, PSU, cables, keyboard N mouse, and... well lots of other stuff. If you wanted to save money.... what would you do?

Heck, alone my gaming rig cost well over $1000. I use the same $330 monitor for my 360 and, well, if it wasn't for my love for tech, I would have given up on PC gaming awhile back. It's a lot cheaper to play on the 360 and there's a larger player base... so it's stupid to argue that any publisher is killing PC gaming when the money and the consumer speak louder than ANY company in the damn world.

Face it: It's more cost effective as a consumer to have a console. Until a gaming rig costs less than a console and looks better comes out and piracy is dealt with, PC gaming will always be dying. Wait, lemme answer that question because such a thing does exist: a console. Now that's using a god damn business degree. >_>

Fun fact, when pirates use the argument of "Well, games cost to much" you can smack them with that same argument.

By the way, a lot of people had expectations for Crysis two. Huge expectations. Were those met? They met a lot but certainly not the communities as a whole. Why would you make the same stupid blanket assumption about yet another game you haven't played yet? And how does that rip up anything? There's not a single fact. l o l Oh because they're throwing money at their marketing department? How does that have anything to do with proving anyone wrong here? It actually proves everyone here correct. They are very unwise with their funds when it comes to satisfaction but keen on profits. 100,000,000 is nothing if they can sell more than 1,666,666 copies at 60$.(Under the assumption that you're not making that number up.)

Your whole pc / console argument is inane. It doesn't even include that importance a PC has in a household and the lack thereof for the console. The marketed age for a console is selective too. Meaning, it's far more likely that any consumer will have a PC over a console. It's far more likely that they will WANT to buy a PC as well. Also, they will use it far more frequently because they have more than a single use for the technology.

100% agree. EA is the reason the PC audience got **** over as well.

No.. they aren't. PC Gamers are clearly that stupid and you are the top of the list. First off, before I thrash you with the money issues, Battlefield 3 will be PC first with 64 player servers and EA is going to spend $100m to market it. Well, umm, doesn't that rip up the whole EA reason? YES IT DOES.

Think for two seconds: How much is a Xbox 360? It's $300 for it, controller, headset, all the cables, and even a crappy free game and that's JUST FOR $300. How much is a PC? It's $300 alone for a good video card.. then you have the case, motherboard, RAM, DVD-Drive, PSU, cables, keyboard N mouse, and... well lots of other stuff. If you wanted to save money.... what would you do?

Heck, alone my gaming rig cost well over $1000. I use the same $330 monitor for my 360 and, well, if it wasn't for my love for tech, I would have given up on PC gaming awhile back. It's a lot cheaper to play on the 360 and there's a larger player base... so it's stupid to argue that any publisher is killing PC gaming when the money and the consumer speak louder than ANY company in the damn world.

Face it: It's more cost effective as a consumer to have a console. Until a gaming rig costs less than a console and looks better comes out and piracy is dealt with, PC gaming will always be dying. Wait, lemme answer that question because such a thing does exist: a console. Now that's using a god damn business degree. >_>

Fun fact, when pirates use the argument of "Well, games cost to much" you can smack them with that same argument.

My rig cost me about as much as a launch PS3/X360 cost. And I play Crysis 2 at Extreme with 60FPS almost constantly.

There went you console argument. Though you being stupid enough to spend a grand on a rig that probably performs about as good as mine speaks volumes about your intelligence.

Crysis 2 didnt fail. I am having fun with multiplayer. Yes there are cheaters but Crytek has done something that removed the bulk of them. Atleast on the servers I play on. That, or Im just so good a player that their aimbot just doesnt help. but I highly doubt it when I look at my leaderboard scores.

No what really rubs me the wrong way is the akward greed that has infested EA and other companies. Not too long ago it was part of being a good entertainment provider to update on their game for a while, to keep people happy and create player goodwill. Epic used to update their UT games with new maps every now and then. It is a tradition that a few companies still adhere to. Coincidentally, those companies are concidered 'darlings' by just about every single gamer out there. Valve is such a company. I put up with so much **** from valve, their Steam service terms, their constant delays, Gabe...but at the end of the day I still love them because they atleast buy me flowers and a dinner first!

4 maps for 10 Euro? Are they drinking Draino at the EA cantina? 1/5th of the price of the full game all included for 4 maps is just plain ugly community alienating muppetry. I find it hard to sympathise with EA's problems because of the way they behave.