There is something wrong with the mutants Wastelanders if it takes two hundred years to figure out how to make clothing. The pure humans of the Enclave on the other hand continued their lives as if the War never happened, making new scientific discoveries and putting them to good use. The best the Wasteland could do is utilize already existing technology.

I support my faction because they ARE A\/\/35oME3ee !!!!
Really though I support Legion because I seem them as the best way to stabilize and civilize the Wastes, their guidlines on punishment are clear and the punishments are actual punishment, the way their ranking system is set up is the way it should be. They have some of the best characters in the game as well

According to the wiki APA was finally developed as of 2215, so that means it took them 138 years to develop a suit of power armor, where the whole time they had advancd technology onboard the oil rig, while people on the wastes are struggling to set up societies.

Well it is armor and some clothing. And they also made things to make power armor better as seen on the Sierra scorched power armor.

Vertibirds, for one, were something finished and manufactured post-war. Also, the Oil Rig has considerable weapons industry, and I doubt before the war it was capable of mass producing energy weapons so much they could sell them to Wastelanders (Salvatore family, New Reno)

Go independent... so I support me. I support me because I'm AWESOME. That's why you all should support me, too.

Seriously, I hate that when working for House/Legion/NCR they all dictate the fate of the 'minor' factions. I like to forge the future based on my own principles rather than the whims of someone who thinks I owe them something.
If I have to pick a side - I guess NCR. At least with them you can go around the commander's back and forge peace with Khans/BoS.

Greedy?
He used his intellect to fidn out how to live forever, plotting to get humanity back on track. How is that greedy?

He had a girlfriend who he took tons of pictures to keep him occupied for centuries (he's still human afterall).

House rules the Strip, as he has said the NCR are just customers in his city. They're citizens may make up most of the populace but they do not have influence there, I believe that Ambassador Dennis Crocker himself said they had no influence on the Strip.

Your right on the white knight part, but they do give healthcare, free food, and job opportunities to their people. So to say they don't give a hoot is a bit far fetched. If there is anyone who doesn't give a hoot about his people, that award belongs to the Narcissist Son of Mars Edward Caesar.

I refer you to Vault 21.
R.I.P.

The NCR is a democratic federation and a democratic government can't exist without public support. So, yes they do "care" about their own people. They have to, if for no other reason that if they don't demonstrate concern for their own citizens, they wouldn't have any.

The real question seems to be whether or not they put their concern for their people over and above their mandate to further expand their territory. I would say no. They have a tendency to bite off more they can chew in the name of expansion, which in turn, puts their people, citizens and soldiers alike, at significant and some might say, unnecessary risk. The NCR is clearly unable to allocate the necessary resources and manpower required to firmly shore up the territory that they have. I'm not going to say "greedy", but I think "overzealous" is a fair description.

What's so bad about that?

It was a building in his land he did not own and could easily aquire. So he bet the residents and won, filling the vault with concrete. They didn't have to gamble, all they lost was their home (most of it).

The NCR has a lot worse things in their history, such as irradiating Vault City's water supply so they would agree to be annexed, the Bitter Sprins Massacre, and the mercenaries sent to Jacobstown.



Not exactly.

They are a republic, their representatives are voted into office. However I believe that in F2 they stated that the President is appointed by Congress (not sure whether that's right or wrong).

So techincally (if representatives' terms are very long) it could be a long gap between the NCR's government caring for its people (which it currently seems like it does not).

House. Because he made RobCo, a company that made millions making robots such as the Securitron and Protectron. He's lived more than 200 years, and he saved Las Vegas from the Great War. Beat that. Oh and don't forget he pretty much owns New Vegas. Once again BEAT THAT!!!!!

I support the NCR and the Followers of the Apocalypse. I value education, hard work, a handshake and looking a man square in the eye. I have no ambitions of being a super-man or pretending I'm the descendant of a C.E.O, senator, or high ranking military man, nor do I want to even entertain for the sake of "roleplay" that slavery and torture are okay now if they'll produce workable results later, because to me they are not, and while I can write an incredibly dark story, since I don't have to participate in it, I will always choose not to.

Working off the land, enlisting for a future, and trying to help others. Core values I support. Yeah neither of them are perfect, I'll be the first to admit that but there's no such thing as utopia in the Fallout world and people are awfully quick to point out Bitter Springs (NCR) people with money running things (NCR) attempted revolution and slander (Followers) and then wash away the sins of their pretend friends with a hand gesture and completely ignore them. The Fallout canon at large has some REMARKABLY dark bits that never seem to get mentioned anymore unless they're the NCR.

Frankly the amount of N.C.R hate when compared to the amount of "MY faction is PERFEC-- don't look under that rug! Why? N.. no reason!" is tedious in it's hypocrisy and mostly hope people are just really into their role-play.

Personally I think people right now just want an "America-esque" entity to hate on and stomp under heel without the DHS knocking on their doors and that's why the N.C.R gets all the flak it does, because there's way, way, way worse in the last 200 years and pre-War as well to consider.

I'm just about to in my current game.

I support D.C. B.O.S. because they actively help people to their best of their power unlike the original B.O.S or the Legion

We're just talking about Fallout: New Vegas factions.

I wouldn't say one senator hiring mercenaries to provoke mutants to raise his.self image is worse than destroying so many peoples homes.

Legion, because they're the bad guys. i play video games from the same mindset i did when i was 10, so?

It was a senator? That's even worse than I thought. (I heard it was a citizen)

And no its not. He wanted those mercenaries to kill an entire settlement, displacing vault dwellers is not as bad as slaughtering a settlement.

Not like House hired mercs to harass the citizens into joining his empire *cough* NCR *cough*

House made a betting offer, and Vault 21 agreed, furthermore House was going to fill the entire Vault, but was convinced otherwise. Besides we don't really know the fates of all but 4 Vault Dwellers. Doc Mitchell is in Goodsprings, Ms. Mitchell is dead, Sarah runs Vault 21, and Sheldon runs the neon sign depot. The others could be employees of the casinos now for all we know. (Come to think of it, that IS a curious wonder of V21's residents fates.)

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House, because if you know how to manipulate events, you can get him to see things your way. There is of course the fact that if he ever goes too far out of line you can just pull his plug, but I'd prefer to reserve that for an extreme event in a possible future. He's usually willing to negotiate or compromise - except on the brotherhood, and let's be fair, the Mojave brotherhood wouldn't compromise in a million years either, so House is taking what he has to work with. There's also the whole certified genius who shot nukes out of the sky thing - the kind of knowledge needed to make the use of nuclear weapons non-viable is something I can appreciate after Lonesome Road.

Legion. Stability through Caesar without the corruption and dependency what started the Great War in the first place.

I have beat the game for all factions. Usually go NCR.

why? big fan of crappy democracy. cause a crappy democracy is crappy, but better than the alternatives.

They sometimes fall from grace and become misguided. Sorry I should have worded that better. :sweat:

I wouldnt neccassarily say democracy was the fault of the War, I'd say it was more the Resource Wars and America's sabatoging China's oil rig over the last reserve of untapped oil that sparked things off. So in many ways, yes America is to blame, but I'd say the blame lies on politicians in power, not the system itself. (I dont support democracy, but whatever)