With Morrowind in it's current state of affairs, slavery in Tamriel seems to have hit a kind of limbo. Obviously it's not gone, and probably isn't going to go away, though. Especially so now that the empire has even less ability to enforce those fleeting anti-slavery laws.

Is there a chance that other cultures might pick up the slack now? In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Black Marsh and Elsweyr in particular decided to retaliate against particular races and cultures in regards to this.

The Altmer still keep goblin servitors as a slave caste, and the Sumursets have been most consistant, with not allowing outsiders in their paradise, withholding emissaries when absolutely necessary and special guests.

The Khajiit aren't looking for trouble beyond their borders, because they barely have borders, like Valenwood. If some wander too far into Elsweyr, then slavers might collect them, but Khajiit in Elsweyr likely don't enslave outsiders, it would be an act too gracious for non Ta'Agra. Argonians have aided the Dunmeri slavery, with tribalism and slave raids into rival territories. They were never, that we know of, united until recently. Trading slaves to the Dunmer was part of the natural order, as reliable in life as one's reflection in the water.

I can imagine the Altmer keeping some slaves, especially with the Aldmeri Dominion on the rise.

You know it's strange... as big as I am in the real world against human and animal exploitation, this is the first time I've considered the plight of the war Goblin in Tamriel, and come to think of it they're a tragic race. I remember feeling sorry for slaughtering so many in Tribunal because they were pretty much coerced into attacking Mournhold. They weren't there of their own volition but as slaves to Helseth and his Altmer trainers.

Well, I think of the goblins as the terrible yeast infection of Nirn, so killing them is a service to the earth. They are goblins, after all, which is to say a creature constructed for the soul purpose of killing and being killed. At least the Altmer have found constructive uses for the goblins, where others simply cut them to pieces. I hear goblins who die in the Sumursets are ground up and fed to the living goblins, which has bred a unique strain of the monsters. The Jungle, anyone? Their plight is similar to the machines' in the Animatrix, if you've seen that episode, where they're constructing new levels of the towering homes of man, while man is living an innocent life, hundreds of feet above. Also similar to the plight of men, at the hands of the machines.

I guess you have a point. I wonder if it's better to put them out of their misery. Still, the ones who live independently seem to have a culture of sorts, even a language. It may be possible to make peace with them and barter with them, or even integrate them into society. I wonder of the Orcs take pity on them in the way they do Ogres? The Goblins are a Pariah Folk too. I'm sure Malacath has an eye on them.

Goblin Jim tried that. I don't know if you've seen his cave-hut, but that's all that remains...

Goblins are the beastial nightmare white man's pinned on black man for thousands of years; a truely vile creature. A creature of myth and fiction, such as the goblins.

So quick to dismiss the possibility, are we? I'll have to attempt to make an appeal to the War College for a grant sometime, to send a scholar to attempt to tame these noble savages. I'd do it myself but I'm busy you know. Busy busy busy. These potions don't make themselves.

The Empire seems to have become defunct as a controlling influence - so rebellion against the principles which are what is left of it will be frequent.

It would not surprise me to see the dunmer return to that openly in their new homeland wherever that may be

And there were people other than dunmer involved in the trade

What i do not see is another 'Empire' showing its face yet. That may come but in the absence of such a thing and given the vast differences in races

Plus despite the power of individuals and the sophisticated nature of magica I do not see the mechanisation of a culture and organisation that comes with it occuring - so that socially whatever the names societies call themselves they will remain comparatively ideosyncratic - so by whatever name slavery will be there.

Besides the rumor was that slavery was outlawed - not that it had been defeated - remember? So likely it continues. After all look how far they got with banishing necromancy ...

Slavery may very well continue, yes, but the question is: Who is going to continue it? It could very well be the Dunmer again, but we don't know how much (if ANY) of their culture will recover. Also, it's incredibly likely that House Dres is pretty much destroyed, as with some other houses, after the events of the Infernal City.

Goblin Jim only died if the Champion killed him!

Considering that most of Dres' holdings were in the south of Morrowind, they're screwed whether they still had slaves or not. If they did - massive slave uprising. If they didn't - revenge of the free Argonians.

Also, I don't recall that Dres was mentioned in the Loveletter. Only Houses Sul and Jaroon, leading me to believe that the events of the Red Year ushered in a cultural Renaissance of sorts for the Dunmer.

Is this an admission of murder, Velas?

Easily, if Thalmor will succeed to bring new Merethic Era.

True re the first - unless they moved resources - and that would affect the last

It may be that the Houses in the Loveletter are the biggest or the smallest - who knows? MK may not even know yet

It's mentioned that High Alma Jaroon of House Jaroon is the Matriarch of the Dunmer people so I would imagine in that era that Jaroon is the ruling House.

Consider that name, too. Alma. Sound familiar? I've learned that there are no coincidences or accidents with MK. Either we're to believe that Almalexia herself has somehow come back or the person in charge of Dunmer society has taken her name. She was, at one point, a powerful leader among the Dunmer people, afterall. Taking her name would elevate someone's status.

The word "alma" is used often in Dunmer society, for example by the Alma Rula, a high ranking member in the Tribunal temple. I reckon it has a meaning similar to "mother" or "parent".

Well that just makes it even more bad[censored]. Mother Jaroon. Imagine the discipline and authority it would take to reunite and strengthen the Morrowind after the Landfall. This person or this person's ancestors must be an exrtemely charismatic leader. I can only imagine that since there is a House Sul, that the Sul character we meet in Infernal City is also instrumental in the reunification.

Interesting. I never knew that the High Alma Jaroon was female. Contrast with the lack of females in power within Vvardenfell, and it shows how Dunmeri culture has changed in the fifth Era.

Then Almalexia slept as did Vivec when he died previously and re-awoke :evil grin: as did Vivec.

I can easily see her or someone claiming to be Her re-incarnation reforming the dunmer around the idea of: "The dunmer erred grievously, they betrayed the Tribunal and the Princes. In doing so the dunmer drew down Holy St Vivec's anger upon them and yea Ve chastised them and did unleash The Hanging Rock to destroy Ves own City and set loose the fires of Red Mountain to cleanse Vvardenfell of the Imperial Taint. Thereafter ... " etc. Sounds like one way to play it - like Moses as did St Veloth before

I assume though that Alma is just a title; I'd like to think that Almalexia is as dead as that mudcrab I killed in Seyda Neen.

Slavery works when it's economically viable. In a society where people have lots of children, they are less likely to have slaves.

Which is to say not dead because they KEEP COMING BACK!

all too true - maybe they have something against death

by the way, how is summerset properly spelled? even in official ore i've seen like a billion different ways.