It's not surprising that most of the people on this forum will buy the PC version just to have their characters nvde, sad really.

I for one though would like to see lore-appropriate and a creative design for underwear, perhaps a lioncloth or somesort. The diaper with Oblivion looked really odd.

It was underwear but I would imagine some moss would have been appropriate for the setting as underwear. Mod it green.

That was a loincloth

Yeah, that's why we buy the PC version ... boobs!

While I fully expect characters to have some sort of undergarment, I hope it is not as jarring as the ridiculous Fallout underwear. Sometimes after looting a raider you felt that you had actually supplied the dead raider with clean undies for their own modesty as t-shirts suddenly appeared on previously topless or scantly covered (egg strainers?) characters and whatnot.

Well without mods, character in Oblivion didn't change their burlap underwear from prison time, seems even nobles prefer such clothes, it can be really fashionable clothing in Cyrodiil

"just to have their characters nvde"? You must be kidding.
99.9% of mod users won't run around in game naked (sober at least )
Thing it that it is wrong that underwear will be glued to character in M rated game.
So mods on PC will fix this.
And that is only one tiny reason for buying game for PC

There will be NO nudity in Skryim, other than user created mods.

That means the "Diapers" or something that looks more like Underwear. Either way is fine with me since I think running out without clothes in the game is foolish.

If no nudity, then I at least hope the underwear makes sense. Seriousy, I'm not playing an advlt game to go back to wearing huggies...


And really, We're playing a game in which we can wipe out a whole damn town, in which we are ENCOURAGED to join a brotherhood of assassins, in which there is blood almost everywhere and necromancers decorate their caves with mutilated dead bodies, and in which some dark elf girl is openly admitting that she's necrophiliac... And that's fine with ESRB. But as soon as there might be a hint, that our characters have the axact same things that we see when we take shower EVERYDAY, then THAT is wrong! Hell, even seeing that Lucien's body had it cut off was ok!


I'll really never understand the world...

Join the club buddy :foodndrink:

Maybe they won't be running around without any armor on, but I'm guaranteed MOST mod users will be a female (a male in real life, probably) wearing some really revealing armor. Just look at how many mods were made for Oblivion. Tens of thousands of armor that depend on nvde mods to work. I don't see why people like this in the game. It's much better in real life, you know? :sadvaultboy: Plus, if Bethesda includes nudity in the game, it would get a higher rating than M or 17+.

And I'm for these so called "diapers." They're realistic and follow lore. I'm not playing Skyrim to see some females in thongs. No thanks. Loincloths FTW.

I'll really never understand the world...

That's exactly it. Then as a result, lore in the game is ruined and rating boards take a step closer to making online games AO due to the type of mods people make.

And by 2022, the word "armor" or "clothing" will no longer exist in the gaming world. Rated T games (13+) will have full blown nudity. This is what the world is coming to.

from middle ages, people actually wore this[img]http://www.yowazzup.com/blog/images/medieval_underwear_10272006.jpg[/img]

Too bad Skyrim doesn't take place on Earth, right? On Nirn, we wear loincloths.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/File:MW-npc-Hisin_Deep-Raed.jpg

People have been creating erotic imagery for thousands of years in every kind of medium. Everybody fantasizes and will express those fantasies in different ways. Much of it is anime inspired and rather sixist, but nobody is forcing anybody to download these mods. They do ruin the lore and the main point of the game, in my opinion, but nobodies forcing me to use them.

Back on topic, they're not diapers. They are an old style underwear. They could have made them look a little better though. http://www.lafortezza.net/images/costumi/narstemp/Mutanda%20medievale%202.jpg

as i recall in morrowind, underwear mostly served as a censor bar, since if you were in your underwear, everyone treated you as if you were completely naked.

they should just stick some fur underwear on everyone, nice and warm.

i do wonder why they avoid nudity like the plague in these later TES games, though... i mean, i guess they might be trying to reach a wider audience, but... oblivion was taken off the shelves temporarily and changed to an "M" rating, anyway... and skyrim will most likely get the same rating.

so whether or not it has nudity, it'll most likely reach the same amount of people... witcher 2 has the full package, from what i saw, nudity, six scenes, yet apparently its still just rated "M" and will be on the shelves.

not saying TES should have six scenes, but nudity shouldnt be avoided so much, especially when they put quite a bit of focus on it in their early games.

im mostly curious WHY they stopped using nudity... it doesnt automatically condemn a game to an AO rating.

hell, most fighting games out there show nearly every inch of skin on females, or puts them in outfits so tight they may as well be nvde, and still get a "T" rating.

mostly just ramblings, im not expecting or suggesting bethesda to go for these approaches, just curious why they decided to stop using nudity in their games, and offering examples that show its not something to fear using with more detailed graphics.

This^ 1000x (Only for the women though, I really don't want to see some hairy mans gonads)

Just give my characters a good loom and a bit of linen or silk, a good template, and I'm okay.

I want this back in Skyrim, it was funny in Morrowind and made no sense in Oblivion when nobody noticed your half nakedness.

I like ur style :hubbahubba:

as long as they are not black socks :sick:

A little insecure in your masculinity?

Loincloths were worn by the Romans, with the women sometimes wearing tube tops (but not always). In the middle ages, though, women wore long undergowns or chemises, and nothing else. Men also stopped wearing loincloths, but I'm not real familiar with the specifics. I believe it was often along the lines of leggings with a flap of cloth in the middle (the whole middle, not just the back like those red woolen long johns) that could be untied.

No, nothing to see here.

http://womensvoicesforchange.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/braies1.jpg

oh come on! be a man! :tongue:

you know every guy in this thread is thinking...."i'd need a pretty darn big cloth" LOL