Will Fallout 4 shed light on Fallout 3?

Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 1:09 pm

If one of the FO 3 game guides is any indication, you are already mistaken, as in that they canonized the LW disarming the Megaton bomb. For now, I don't consider it canon, because it didn't appear in every game guide, but I do think that quest, and the Replicated Man quest, will be decided in 4. I also wouldn't be surprised if the Reilly Ranger quest canon ending becomes known.

I would also say that blowing up Megaton isn't really a "neutral" action, pretty downright evil, and having a "good" LW who saves the CW doesn't make much sense to also have that LW be a mass murderer, or a slaver.

If Zimmer, Armitage, and Harkness are not in game at all, I would say it is safe to assume Zimmer is dead, his body chucked into the Potomac.

I really don't understand why people want to cling to what they did in a game(multiple different times more than likely) 7 years ago. Boggles the mind.

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James Shaw
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:23 pm

Well if you doubt that, and many do(me included), then they need all the help they can get. Yes, it is possible to move away, but for 4, they didn't. Eventually, only so much moving you can do before you bordering past games, so, I guess my point is you may as well decide it all now, then having to wait years, potentially more sequels, when you are forced to do it(and potentially have dug a hole so deep your story instantly blows).

Right now I'm hoping the story is decent, and if they declare a decent amount of canon, I will be relieved as far as the future of the series is concerned.

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Claudia Cook
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:22 am

I don't want to see things such as canon choices from the PC, but lore? Yeah, there better be some.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:59 pm

I agree. I dont think it is any different than what we have seen with the past games. I'm sure the Potomac River has clean water and life has returned the the DC area. Bethesda should understand they are going to have to give us some insight on the past game, FO3.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:01 pm

I don't see why they should cannonise a lot of FO3. If it has an impact on FO4 then yes some details would be needed and it make sense that a lot will be confused and changed due to it being passed on word of mouth from people who weren't there. Boston is quite some distance from D.C. (460 miles give or take according to google maps lol)

I also wouldn't say the CWBoS rules out destruction of the citadel or poisoning the wasteland, that could explain why they are in Boston.

If I was to cannonise details I'd likely try and do it based on the most popular choices players made, going to annoy people but this way at least has an excuse lol

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:46 am

Why would they be anything but a merc group?

The Talon Company is led, and presumably founded by, Commander Jabsco, and are willing to take on any job given to them, no matter how dirty, so long as the pay is good.

Their organization was presumably destroyed in Broken Steel when a squad of Brotherhood paladins, leds by Paladin Jensen, and assisted by the Lone Wanderer, assaulted the Talon Company main base of Fort Bannister, killing all inside, including Commander Jacbso.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:14 am

This,I remember raiding that place. It's where you could find Occam's Razor.

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Dean Brown
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:28 am

The story line means little to a guy like me who only cares about shootin' and lootin' towards building a wealthy, badass character.

I'd sure welcome Dr. Li and her SPECIAL upgrades however :wink:

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:12 pm

ok before we go off more about fo3 info in fo4. how about we do an actual time line this new fo4 takes place 200 years after the bombs fo3 takes place 250 years I believe since they closed themselves back inside vault 101 . if that is the case nothing you do from fallout 3 will have any effect on fallout 4. since it hasn't happened yet. from what I have seen of the game video's and screenshots that appears to be the case. so In essence what we do in fo4 should have an effect on what starts in fo3 not the other way around. correct?

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:14 am

Fallout 3 takes place 200 years after the bombs fell.

Fallout 4 takes place 210 years after the bomb fell.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:45 am

so then I was correct since during fallout 4 your only 10 years old still haven't even taken the goat tests locked in vault 101?

or if one used the requiem mod your still in Vegas at the time and you stepped on president Eden brought water to dc. by the way dc is a few hundred miles from Boston 441 miles according to travel math so odds are not many are walking it to sell water etc.. so in such a small time frame of 10 years a good 90% of what your fo3 character did wont be known if any of it. maybe rumor of they have water down south but that's about it most likely. ain't like they have telephones and emails going around or working TV's showing the news from far away via satellite. even 3 dog has a limit to his range via radio.

in essence I cannot see a lot of what the lone wanderer from vault 101 does being a major factor for Bostonians. only exception would be if Dr lee made it to Boston from dc. she's old traveling with no one as far as I can tell or just her lacky's that were useless in the escape sewers getting away from the enclave. my odds are maybe 1 of them made it maybe but more likely they got eaten by a death claw along the way

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:06 am

No. the main game of Fallout 3, aka when you exit the vault, takes place 200 years after the war.

Your born around 180 years after the war.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:07 pm

Q F T T

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:56 am

to bad they couldn't time the release with subways national sandwich day give away so we have 2 sandwiches to eat while playing fo4 lol

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:34 pm

so if one was to do a requiem full life run through there born in fo3 do all the stuff there go to Boston then end up in new vegas as dead or ruler? that's if fo4 allows us to continue playing like they changed it to at the end of fo3 due to so many players being pissed at the ending of fo3 because they hack jobbed it

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:26 am

...FO3 and FO4 have no real connection besides possible cameo's...You start the game in the pre-war...

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Davorah Katz
 
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:27 am

FO 4 takes place after FO NV, too.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:25 am

ok im having problem getting the fallout 4 website to work I enter my b day English etc. then it goes to a spinning gear and just stays there. for the http://www.fallout4.com site

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:25 am

Been said we can continue playing once finished the main quest if I recall.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 9:54 am

(Of all the thread topics, it was finally this silliness that got me to make an account.)
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Canonizing decisions in a seven year old game doesn't take away one shred of our choice or decisions. I still play my heavily modded Fallout 3 at least once a day and, without a doubt, I'm looking forward to seeing what Bethesda says is canon.

You/we are a guest in the universe of Fallout. We participate and make our choices. Period.

Personally, I hope the good endings (note the lack of italics for good) are canon. They are the only ones that allow sequels, really. Or, I suppose, everyone could be dead.

Even just taking into account the Broken Steel evil decision: the CW Brotherhood would be dead (sorry, the Super Mutants would eat them alive if they lost the Citadel), GNR and Three Dog would be dead without support, Rivet City would collapse in on itself as the Super Mutants cut their supply lines off, Megaton might survive for a few years until the Super Mutants lay siege. Canterbury Commons wiped off the map within a year. The Outcasts won't help and may survive, but the majority population centers would be turned into Mutants. Little Lamplight inevitably falls, but may survive longer with their miracle fungus. The Rangers could barely survive one little run of bad luck in Vernon Square, to say nothing of double or triple Super Mutant numbers. (For a picture of their plight, the lone scavenger group in the downtown area, turn on Marts Mutant Mod to the highest setting and go to Vernon Square. On hard. At level 10.

Your move.)

A single Overlord getting into Rivet City would kill 90% of the population. A single Overlord getting into Megaton would kill probably everyone except Jericho and Simms.

Hell, without you, and the Citadel-sent Lyon's Pride, GNR falling IS canon. 馃槅
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Eye roll.

And that's not even being /really evil./
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:57 pm

Beth really should think of making a game save importing system or let us pick are actions from previous games in fo4 when starting a new game but if beth do canonize events at least make some of them where the protagonist was a ass ya know to keep it interesting.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 11:33 am


Would die for this. But, their games are just so much more massive than, say, Mass Effect (in before horrible rainbow ending discussion).
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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:59 am

that makes sense for a game like witcher which follows a story of 1 guy but every fallout game has its own story and characters so i doubt they will ever consider it.

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:58 pm

I hope they "canonize" a fallout 3 character. Loosely, anyways. Like picking the good path (the evil one is just stupid!evil and cartoonish). I think it would be cool to hear about how the cwbos has a paladin from a vault who is out doing heroics and other impressive [censored].

I don't think they should just name drop fo3 stuff for the lolz though, hearing something about how the capital wasteland is flourishing (or a deadlands) and maybe have dr. Li show up or something

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Post » Wed Dec 02, 2015 5:25 am

the only reason any fallout games carry over is if one uses a continuation mod like the one for fallout 3 to new vegas. and even then it only works because in the beginning of new vegas your already an advlt. shot in the head. where as fo4 takes place before the bombs fall fo3 you start off as an infant . and the others are just way to old of a game to port a save file to a new system with. old being fo1, 2, tactics, broken,

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