I'm not looking for stuff to moan about. Ever since BoS Ive thought jetpacks were a bad idea.

And how does AP work? It isn't exactly that important in Fallout 3/NV

Well give us an actual reason why jet packs, are so bad.

Edit- AP is what you use in VATS

I'm not certain, but it seems like it could be used to get to areas NPCs cannot which is a major advantage the player has over the game unless they have vastly improved NPC AI.

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-Governed by agility.

-Sprinting, jetpack use, and VATS use all take up AP.

If the PC uses Jet Packs, who is to say that NPC's Cannot?

It didn't look like he was 50ft in the air from the use of his jetpack, and what if it only works with the walking tank like version of PA and lifts you maybe 10-15ft off of the floor?

There could be more than one type of PA, i.e Tank like PA jetpack included, and PA you just whack on like FO3 FNV...

Game limitations... Atleast they will have Vertibirds

I guess that's true. Oh god cliffracers 2.0.

What limitations? NPC's use path-mesh to navigate, so now, they get the option of using the jetpack to jump from one mesh, to another, that isn't connected to their current one. Really, that wouldn't be all that hard to code.

I think that makes the conversion more complex. and Han Solo approves.

BITE YOUR TONGUE!

Or is it, fingers?

Cliffracers were great for my marksman skill.

you know, that's the part that confuses me the most. Why are these people here? Beth didn't buy the rights to the game last year. It was over a decade ago. They aren't interplay, and have never even hinted they are trying to, or even interested in taking the franchise back to the turn based FO 1 &2 style games. They proved it with how they made FO3, and that was what, 4 years ago? Did you guys really expect FO4 to be like the first two?

You can wear PA as after you've escaped the tunnels be earth project Purity. That is before you go to Little Lamplight in order to reach V87 to get a GECK. You're thinking of the return to the Citadel much later.

Yeah figured I'd gone wrong somewhere, thanks for clearing that up!

In my head lamplight, V87, Ravenrock all came before the first citadel trip!

I forgot we actually have 5 dialog responses. We just need an mod to remove the essential flag

And I'm aware of the more option however it reduce the number to 3 on the fist menu, as you would usually need an back option too this will reduce it to 3 here too.

However this will be enough if they cut down some and also added deeper level of nesting.

Clumsy as hell however, probably far more so on pc. Solution 5 is not clumsy and you can loot afterward.

Why do I have an feeling my karma will be very low?

Anyway, someone just uploaded this to the FO 4 reddit, this would be awesome, even though I'm
Batman> ALL HEROES especially Ironman.

http://imgur.com/a/2Pnwa

No biggie. I actually had my game guide all dusty and tucked way underneath my bed to check for that one. It's been a long time for me too.

Obviously.

I just hope it's not wide as an ocean but as deep as a puddle like Skyrim and FO3. I don't think Fo3 and Skyrim are bad games but I hope there more to this game then just running around for no real reason then just killing enemies.

I think the other way, just the crafting and building system itself make this game very interesting even if the main quest seriously bad.

Eh, I didn't run around Fallout 3 just killing enemies. I ran around Exploring and Experiencing the world (in between doing sidequests, in between doing main quests). Killing enemies just happened as a side effect of that.

I doubt it will be that entertaining. Many games have already incorporated some kind of building mechanic and they always turn out to be really shallow and pointless. At least IMO.

I agree about the whole 10 mins thing.
Mmmm a lot of places won't give u a full refund. Here where I live, walmart, target, GameStop, and bestbuy won't give u a refund on an open game and will only let u exchange it for the very same game hence why I was asking.
Moaning on the forums or even metacritic never felt like it actually did anything and with no way to get refunds where I am, was asking just incase I had same experience as skyrim.
Tbh I'm gonna get the game and give it a chance unless on top of what they are already doing with Microsoft if they include yet again exclusive time with dlcs...

If it was isometric would it be entertaining to you?

Nope. Pillars had the stronghold. While it was a cool mechanic, it ultimately added nothing of real value to the game.

I'm fine with exploring and experiencing the world but there has to more to it then just that t. That's the weak point to Skyrim imo. I want to explore the world but I need more then "Yeah a cave. I wonder what is inside". That shouldn't be the entire game imo and that's where the screwed up at with Skyrim they expected us to just be happy with a big world but there is nothing going on in it.